Does improved toughness feat effect stack? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Does improved toughness feat effect stack? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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TheMonk
08-10-07, 10:58 AM Well as the title says.

I guess I can take the feat multiple time (it doesn't state anything so I assume I can), which is very nice, considering I can gain a number of HP equal to my current hit dice. A fighter would gain 10 HP that way.

But the feat also gives you +1 HP every time you level up. My question is - does this stack? For example, if I take the feat 3 times, do I gain +3 HP for every extra hit dice I gain?

For example I advance from level 9 to level 10, and have 3 improved toughness feats. Do I gain +3 HP from my 3 imp. toughness feats since I gained a hit dice (in addition to 1d10 normal HP because I'm a fighter, and my constitution, as normal)?
Unholy_King
08-10-07, 11:10 AM I guess I can take the feat multiple time (it doesn't state anything so I assume I can)

That is the wrong assumption when it comes to feats in DnD. In DnD, you can't get a feat multiple times unless it says you can. Usually, it I'll say you can take a feat multiple times but it has to be with a different target, though rarely a feat like Toughness will flat at say you can take it multiple times and it's effects stacks.

Improved toughness doesn't say anything of the sort.

So, no. You can't take it multiple times.
TheMonk
08-10-07, 11:13 AM That is the wrong assumption when it comes to feats in DnD. In DnD, you can't get a feat multiple times unless it says you can. Usually, it I'll say you can take a feat multiple times but it has to be with a different target, though rarely a feat like Toughness will flat at say you can take it multiple times and it's effects stacks.

Improved toughness doesn't say anything of the sort.

So, no. You can't take it multiple times.

Ahh I see. Thanks for clearing that up then, it's been some time since I last played D&D :)

Thank you :)
SilentOne
08-10-07, 11:22 AM A fighter would gain 10 HP that way.
Likewise, you don't gain 10 hp unless you're 10th level. You don't gain hp equal to the size on your HD, but rather the amount. So a first level fighter (or barbarian, or paladin, or ranger, or any other class qualifying for it at first level) would only gain +1 HP when they took it, then get another 1 hp, in addition to their normal rolled amount and constitution bonus, at each successive level.

A fighter, a wizard, and a rogue all take the feat at 12th level. Each one of them gains 12 hp, not 10, 4, and 6.
TheMonk
08-10-07, 11:26 AM Likewise, you don't gain 10 hp unless you're 10th level. You don't gain hp equal to the size on your HD, but rather the amount. So a first level fighter (or barbarian, or paladin, or ranger, or any other class qualifying for it at first level) would only gain +1 HP when they took it, then get another 1 hp, in addition to their normal rolled amount and constitution bonus, at each successive level.

A fighter, a wizard, and a rogue all take the feat at 12th level. Each one of them gains 12 hp, not 10, 4, and 6.

Ah right I see. I guess I should have read it 5 times then instead of just 4 lol ^^

Thanks for the info, I got it now :)
risner
08-13-07, 10:36 PM Well as the title says.

I dunno, you tell me.

Does the feat explicitly say it stacks with itself?

If it does, then yes it stacks.
If not, then you know the answer.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
TheMonk 08-10-07, 10:58 AM	Well as the title says. I guess I can take the feat multiple time (it doesn't state anything so I assume I can), which is very nice, considering I can gain a number of HP equal to my current hit dice. A fighter would gain 10 HP that way. But the feat also gives you +1 HP every time you level up. My question is - does this stack? For example, if I take the feat 3 times, do I gain +3 HP for every extra hit dice I gain? For example I advance from level 9 to level 10, and have 3 improved toughness feats. Do I gain +3 HP from my 3 imp. toughness feats since I gained a hit dice (in addition to 1d10 normal HP because I'm a fighter, and my constitution, as normal)?
Unholy_King 08-10-07, 11:10 AM	I guess I can take the feat multiple time (it doesn't state anything so I assume I can) That is the wrong assumption when it comes to feats in DnD. In DnD, you can't get a feat multiple times unless it says you can. Usually, it I'll say you can take a feat multiple times but it has to be with a different target, though rarely a feat like Toughness will flat at say you can take it multiple times and it's effects stacks. Improved toughness doesn't say anything of the sort. So, no. You can't take it multiple times.
TheMonk 08-10-07, 11:13 AM	That is the wrong assumption when it comes to feats in DnD. In DnD, you can't get a feat multiple times unless it says you can. Usually, it I'll say you can take a feat multiple times but it has to be with a different target, though rarely a feat like Toughness will flat at say you can take it multiple times and it's effects stacks. Improved toughness doesn't say anything of the sort. So, no. You can't take it multiple times. Ahh I see. Thanks for clearing that up then, it's been some time since I last played D&D :) Thank you :)
SilentOne 08-10-07, 11:22 AM	A fighter would gain 10 HP that way. Likewise, you don't gain 10 hp unless you're 10th level. You don't gain hp equal to the size on your HD, but rather the amount. So a first level fighter (or barbarian, or paladin, or ranger, or any other class qualifying for it at first level) would only gain +1 HP when they took it, then get another 1 hp, in addition to their normal rolled amount and constitution bonus, at each successive level. A fighter, a wizard, and a rogue all take the feat at 12th level. Each one of them gains 12 hp, not 10, 4, and 6.
TheMonk 08-10-07, 11:26 AM	Likewise, you don't gain 10 hp unless you're 10th level. You don't gain hp equal to the size on your HD, but rather the amount. So a first level fighter (or barbarian, or paladin, or ranger, or any other class qualifying for it at first level) would only gain +1 HP when they took it, then get another 1 hp, in addition to their normal rolled amount and constitution bonus, at each successive level. A fighter, a wizard, and a rogue all take the feat at 12th level. Each one of them gains 12 hp, not 10, 4, and 6. Ah right I see. I guess I should have read it 5 times then instead of just 4 lol ^^ Thanks for the info, I got it now :)
risner 08-13-07, 10:36 PM	Well as the title says. I dunno, you tell me. Does the feat explicitly say it stacks with itself? If it does, then yes it stacks. If not, then you know the answer.