Double Tap, and the use of actions [Archive] - Wizards Community

Double Tap, and the use of actions [Archive] - Wizards Community

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GreyEagle
04-09-07, 11:51 AM Does double tap mean that you cannnot make a full round action? I couldnt find any clarification on this. Also, how difficult do ya'll think it oughta be to shoot arrows and other projectiles out of the air with a gun?
RobbyPants
04-09-07, 11:54 AM I guess I'd have to read it again; I can't remember if it's a full-round action (similar to Rapid Shot), or a standard action, or if it's applied to "one attack."

As for shooting arrows out of the air with a gun, I'd say it's pretty much impossible, unless the DM worked in something odd with Deflect Arrows. An arrow would move way too fast for you to be able to see it, let alone react to it, aim at it, and shoot it.
Ranger REG
04-09-07, 06:45 PM Does double tap mean that you cannnot make a full round action? I couldnt find any clarification on this. Also, how difficult do ya'll think it oughta be to shoot arrows and other projectiles out of the air with a gun?
Double Tap ... in D&D??? :uh-huh:

Cite your source.
Nadaka
04-09-07, 10:43 PM If you are refering to the d20 modern double tap, it is an attack and not an attack action (D&D calls these standard actions). Therefore yes you can use it multiple times per round or even mix it with normal attacks in a full attack action, and note that the penalty to hit only applies on attacks where you do the double taps, and not on any other attacks made that round.

Though I think that you might have difficulty find a semi-automatic firearm in D&D.

And as for shooting bullets and arrows out of the air? :uh-huh: No, you can not do that in d20 modern.
GreyEagle
04-10-07, 12:46 PM hahaha, thanks for the clarification. Btw, the shooting arrows out of the air idea came from The Dark Tower Series. It was going to be for a prestige class, as a capstone ability, but I decided not to make the class.
sigma999
04-10-07, 06:55 PM There are sources with shuriken knocked out of the air, as well as damage spells countering each other.
Those same sources are anime so I won't mention specific names but see if you can find them...
Also, why not include guns in D&D? Double Tap would be just as good for some characters as the archery feats are for elves. Revolvers... dwarf or gnome style :D
Ranger REG
04-10-07, 08:58 PM Also, why not include guns in D&D? Double Tap would be just as good for some characters as the archery feats are for elves. Revolvers... dwarf or gnome style :D
You could include guns in D&D but the revolver (which would allow double tap as any semiautomatic firearms) haven't been introduced in the medieval or renaissance periods. And revolver needs the percussion cap technology.
GreyEagle
04-10-07, 11:09 PM How you aquire the technology is pointless. The fact is I'm using it. If I wanted to know how to get it, this would be a different thread now, correct? Anyhow, I got my answer. Thread done.
Ranger REG
04-11-07, 04:54 AM How you aquire the technology is pointless. The fact is I'm using it. If I wanted to know how to get it, this would be a different thread now, correct? Anyhow, I got my answer. Thread done.Hey, I have to ask. Double Tap is not mentioned in any D&D product, and this is appropriately a D&D forum.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
GreyEagle 04-09-07, 11:51 AM	Does double tap mean that you cannnot make a full round action? I couldnt find any clarification on this. Also, how difficult do ya'll think it oughta be to shoot arrows and other projectiles out of the air with a gun?
RobbyPants 04-09-07, 11:54 AM	I guess I'd have to read it again; I can't remember if it's a full-round action (similar to Rapid Shot), or a standard action, or if it's applied to "one attack." As for shooting arrows out of the air with a gun, I'd say it's pretty much impossible, unless the DM worked in something odd with Deflect Arrows. An arrow would move way too fast for you to be able to see it, let alone react to it, aim at it, and shoot it.
Ranger REG 04-09-07, 06:45 PM	Does double tap mean that you cannnot make a full round action? I couldnt find any clarification on this. Also, how difficult do ya'll think it oughta be to shoot arrows and other projectiles out of the air with a gun? Double Tap ... in D&D??? :uh-huh: Cite your source.
Nadaka 04-09-07, 10:43 PM	If you are refering to the d20 modern double tap, it is an attack and not an attack action (D&D calls these standard actions). Therefore yes you can use it multiple times per round or even mix it with normal attacks in a full attack action, and note that the penalty to hit only applies on attacks where you do the double taps, and not on any other attacks made that round. Though I think that you might have difficulty find a semi-automatic firearm in D&D. And as for shooting bullets and arrows out of the air? :uh-huh: No, you can not do that in d20 modern.
GreyEagle 04-10-07, 12:46 PM	hahaha, thanks for the clarification. Btw, the shooting arrows out of the air idea came from The Dark Tower Series. It was going to be for a prestige class, as a capstone ability, but I decided not to make the class.
sigma999 04-10-07, 06:55 PM	There are sources with shuriken knocked out of the air, as well as damage spells countering each other. Those same sources are anime so I won't mention specific names but see if you can find them... Also, why not include guns in D&D? Double Tap would be just as good for some characters as the archery feats are for elves. Revolvers... dwarf or gnome style :D
Ranger REG 04-10-07, 08:58 PM	Also, why not include guns in D&D? Double Tap would be just as good for some characters as the archery feats are for elves. Revolvers... dwarf or gnome style :D You could include guns in D&D but the revolver (which would allow double tap as any semiautomatic firearms) haven't been introduced in the medieval or renaissance periods. And revolver needs the percussion cap technology.
GreyEagle 04-10-07, 11:09 PM	How you aquire the technology is pointless. The fact is I'm using it. If I wanted to know how to get it, this would be a different thread now, correct? Anyhow, I got my answer. Thread done.
Ranger REG 04-11-07, 04:54 AM	How you aquire the technology is pointless. The fact is I'm using it. If I wanted to know how to get it, this would be a different thread now, correct? Anyhow, I got my answer. Thread done.Hey, I have to ask. Double Tap is not mentioned in any D&D product, and this is appropriately a D&D forum.