Energy Sub and Fiery Burst interaction [Archive] - Wizards Community

Energy Sub and Fiery Burst interaction [Archive] - Wizards Community

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TwistedFate
08-28-07, 04:20 PM Recently my Wizard took the Fiery Burst feat from Complete Mage. He already had Energy Sub(Cold). Fiery Burst gives "fire based spells are cast as 1 caster level higher". I play this as if I get the bonus on fire spells, but not on fire spells that I use Energy Sub on. ex. lvl10 Wizard casts Fireball at level 11, but would only cast Iceball at level 10. Or is it still a fire spell that just happens to deal cold damage meaning the Iceball should be caster level 11?
tarkin
08-28-07, 04:28 PM When you change it to Cold it not only changes the damage done but also the descriptor.

With the descriptor [Cold] and not [Fire] it no longer qualifies for Fiery Burst.

Caster level = 10.

Note however, that it can also work in your favor.

An Elemental Subsition [Fire] on a lightning bolt makes it qualify for Fiery Burst.
TwistedFate
08-28-07, 04:46 PM Thank you. That's what I thought. I don't really see a need to switch a spell to fire based, right now, since a good chunk of my spells are fire based, but it is good to know I can do that if I need a quick cold spell for a bonus.

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TwistedFate 08-28-07, 04:20 PM	Recently my Wizard took the Fiery Burst feat from Complete Mage. He already had Energy Sub(Cold). Fiery Burst gives "fire based spells are cast as 1 caster level higher". I play this as if I get the bonus on fire spells, but not on fire spells that I use Energy Sub on. ex. lvl10 Wizard casts Fireball at level 11, but would only cast Iceball at level 10. Or is it still a fire spell that just happens to deal cold damage meaning the Iceball should be caster level 11?
tarkin 08-28-07, 04:28 PM	When you change it to Cold it not only changes the damage done but also the descriptor. With the descriptor [Cold] and not [Fire] it no longer qualifies for Fiery Burst. Caster level = 10. Note however, that it can also work in your favor. An Elemental Subsition [Fire] on a lightning bolt makes it qualify for Fiery Burst.
TwistedFate 08-28-07, 04:46 PM	Thank you. That's what I thought. I don't really see a need to switch a spell to fire based, right now, since a good chunk of my spells are fire based, but it is good to know I can do that if I need a quick cold spell for a bonus.