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Post/Author/DateTime Post
Bidalga
04-19-07, 04:22 PM if i have paladin 4 and cleric 1, and take the extra turn feat do i get 4 extra turn to each class or just 4 extra turn to one of the classes?
RobbyPants
04-19-07, 04:49 PM I'd have to say you get an additional four per day, total, not per class. Wouldn't your total level for turning be your cleric level + (your paladin level - 3)? I don't think you have two seprate pools going here.

Extra Turning [General]
Prerequisite
Ability to turn or rebuke creatures.

Benefit
Each time you take this feat, you can use your ability to turn or rebuke creatures four more times per day than normal.

If you have the ability to turn or rebuke more than one kind of creature each of your turning or rebuking abilities gains four additional uses per day.

Normal
Without this feat, a character can typically turn or rebuke undead (or other creatures) a number of times per day equal to 3 + his or her Charisma modifier.

Special
You can gain Extra Turning multiple times. Its effects stack. Each time you take the feat, you can use each of your turning or rebuking abilities four additional times per day.
Bidalga
04-20-07, 08:27 PM well, my friend have cleric and chameleon levels, he uses his ablity to mimic class features to get turn undead ability through chameleon levels, have charisma 14 and he take the Extra Turning feat(the feat dont says that you gain extra turning just to one class that gives the ability to turn undead)
how many times per day he can try to turn undead?
3+2 (cleric + 14 charisma)
+
3+2(mimic class features + 14 charisma)
+
4(Extra Turning to cleric levels)
+
4(Extra Turning to chameleon levels)
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18

is this correct?
temparus2000
04-20-07, 09:07 PM well, my friend have cleric and chameleon levels, he uses his ablity to mimic class features to get turn undead ability through chameleon levels, have charisma 14 and he take the Extra Turning feat(the feat dont says that you gain extra turning just to one class that gives the ability to turn undead)
how many times per day he can try to turn undead?
3+2 (cleric + 14 charisma)
+
3+2(mimic class features + 14 charisma)
+
4(Extra Turning to cleric levels)
+
4(Extra Turning to chameleon levels)
---------------------------------
18

is this correct?

I don't think so. The feat says flat-out you get 4 additional turns per day, not 4 turns per turning-abled class. Taking the feat simply increases the number of turns attempts per day by a flat 4, regardless of how many classes you have that have the ability
Nom
04-21-07, 05:23 PM Actually, Extra Turning increases the effectiveness of each of your turning-type abilities. So if you can turn undead and turn elementals, you get +4 for each.

However, turn abilities of the same type (eg undead) generally stack by level. A cleric 5 / paladin 5 turns undead exactly as if he was a level 7 cleric. Similarly, a Clr5/Pal5 with Extra Turning turns undead exactly as if he was a level 7 cleric with Extra Turning.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Bidalga 04-19-07, 04:22 PM	if i have paladin 4 and cleric 1, and take the extra turn feat do i get 4 extra turn to each class or just 4 extra turn to one of the classes?
RobbyPants 04-19-07, 04:49 PM	I'd have to say you get an additional four per day, total, not per class. Wouldn't your total level for turning be your cleric level + (your paladin level - 3)? I don't think you have two seprate pools going here. Extra Turning [General] Prerequisite Ability to turn or rebuke creatures. Benefit Each time you take this feat, you can use your ability to turn or rebuke creatures four more times per day than normal. If you have the ability to turn or rebuke more than one kind of creature each of your turning or rebuking abilities gains four additional uses per day. Normal Without this feat, a character can typically turn or rebuke undead (or other creatures) a number of times per day equal to 3 + his or her Charisma modifier. Special You can gain Extra Turning multiple times. Its effects stack. Each time you take the feat, you can use each of your turning or rebuking abilities four additional times per day.
Bidalga 04-20-07, 08:27 PM	well, my friend have cleric and chameleon levels, he uses his ablity to mimic class features to get turn undead ability through chameleon levels, have charisma 14 and he take the Extra Turning feat(the feat dont says that you gain extra turning just to one class that gives the ability to turn undead) how many times per day he can try to turn undead? 3+2 (cleric + 14 charisma) + 3+2(mimic class features + 14 charisma) + 4(Extra Turning to cleric levels) + 4(Extra Turning to chameleon levels) --------------------------------- 18 is this correct?
temparus2000 04-20-07, 09:07 PM	well, my friend have cleric and chameleon levels, he uses his ablity to mimic class features to get turn undead ability through chameleon levels, have charisma 14 and he take the Extra Turning feat(the feat dont says that you gain extra turning just to one class that gives the ability to turn undead) how many times per day he can try to turn undead? 3+2 (cleric + 14 charisma) + 3+2(mimic class features + 14 charisma) + 4(Extra Turning to cleric levels) + 4(Extra Turning to chameleon levels) --------------------------------- 18 is this correct? I don't think so. The feat says flat-out you get 4 additional turns per day, not 4 turns per turning-abled class. Taking the feat simply increases the number of turns attempts per day by a flat 4, regardless of how many classes you have that have the ability
Nom 04-21-07, 05:23 PM	Actually, Extra Turning increases the effectiveness of each of your turning-type abilities. So if you can turn undead and turn elementals, you get +4 for each. However, turn abilities of the same type (eg undead) generally stack by level. A cleric 5 / paladin 5 turns undead exactly as if he was a level 7 cleric. Similarly, a Clr5/Pal5 with Extra Turning turns undead exactly as if he was a level 7 cleric with Extra Turning.