Feat for criting undead? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Feat for criting undead? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Aleolus
11-24-07, 07:31 PM OK, does anyone know of any feats or class features you can acquire to allow you to score critical hits on undead, or other races normally immune to them? I know of one, however it was released by a third party company, for 3.0 ed, so it is not necessarily the best source for feats :( . What I'm wanting is a feat or class feature that allows the character who has it to be able to score critical hits or Sneak Attack undead. Can anyone help me?
Hsien
11-24-07, 07:56 PM Swift Hunter, CoScoundrel, allows Skirmish damage to affect Favored Enemies even if normally immune to that.

Skull Clan Hunter, Mini Handbook, has several bonuses against undead, which in think include sneak damage eventually.
The_sleeper1
11-24-07, 08:20 PM From the MIC there is an undead crystal that lets you crit and do SA damage I think. the one that has that alsodoes +1D6 damage to undead has ghost touch and is a greater augment meaning that it requires a +3 or better weapon to use it. I think the cost is rather low, only around 5-8k or so.
Aleolus
11-24-07, 08:29 PM Hmm, I'll have to see if I can get into a campaign as a Skullclan hunter. They can SA undead at first level, and gain SA damage as they level. Interesting. Swift Scoundrel also sounds good, though only if you're playing a Scout, instead of a Rouge.
Chimaera2000
11-24-07, 10:13 PM The Penetrating Strike alternate class feature from Dungeonscape and Expedition to Castle Ravenloft lets you swap trap sense for the ability to deal half sneak attack damage to creatures normally immune to it as well.
Tonil
11-25-07, 01:25 AM Not a critical, but Necropotent feat from Libris Mortis, gives you +4 damage against Undead. It requires weapon specialization though.

As a class feature, there are several spells that let you crit plants, undead, or others. For example, Vine Strike from Com. Adv. lets you sneak attack a plant.

Other than those, the ranger's favored enemies is the closest I can think of.
Aleolus
11-25-07, 03:15 AM OK, now for a different question. If you have a feat that allows you to SA/Skirmish/SS undead, does the damage apply to supernatural abilities that only damage undead? Example, the Armguards of Disruption soulmeld (MoI) deals 1d6 points of damage to Undead creatures on a touch attack, +1d6 for every point of Essentia you put into the soulmeld. Would SA dice stack with those dice if the undead were denied their Dex bonus and you were able to SA undead?
The_sleeper1
11-25-07, 02:17 PM yes. To use SA you need to fullfill all the conditions of SA and that is independent of any other conditions your fullfilling.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Aleolus 11-24-07, 07:31 PM	OK, does anyone know of any feats or class features you can acquire to allow you to score critical hits on undead, or other races normally immune to them? I know of one, however it was released by a third party company, for 3.0 ed, so it is not necessarily the best source for feats :( . What I'm wanting is a feat or class feature that allows the character who has it to be able to score critical hits or Sneak Attack undead. Can anyone help me?
Hsien 11-24-07, 07:56 PM	Swift Hunter, CoScoundrel, allows Skirmish damage to affect Favored Enemies even if normally immune to that. Skull Clan Hunter, Mini Handbook, has several bonuses against undead, which in think include sneak damage eventually.
The_sleeper1 11-24-07, 08:20 PM	From the MIC there is an undead crystal that lets you crit and do SA damage I think. the one that has that alsodoes +1D6 damage to undead has ghost touch and is a greater augment meaning that it requires a +3 or better weapon to use it. I think the cost is rather low, only around 5-8k or so.
Aleolus 11-24-07, 08:29 PM	Hmm, I'll have to see if I can get into a campaign as a Skullclan hunter. They can SA undead at first level, and gain SA damage as they level. Interesting. Swift Scoundrel also sounds good, though only if you're playing a Scout, instead of a Rouge.
Chimaera2000 11-24-07, 10:13 PM	The Penetrating Strike alternate class feature from Dungeonscape and Expedition to Castle Ravenloft lets you swap trap sense for the ability to deal half sneak attack damage to creatures normally immune to it as well.
Tonil 11-25-07, 01:25 AM	Not a critical, but Necropotent feat from Libris Mortis, gives you +4 damage against Undead. It requires weapon specialization though. As a class feature, there are several spells that let you crit plants, undead, or others. For example, Vine Strike from Com. Adv. lets you sneak attack a plant. Other than those, the ranger's favored enemies is the closest I can think of.
Aleolus 11-25-07, 03:15 AM	OK, now for a different question. If you have a feat that allows you to SA/Skirmish/SS undead, does the damage apply to supernatural abilities that only damage undead? Example, the Armguards of Disruption soulmeld (MoI) deals 1d6 points of damage to Undead creatures on a touch attack, +1d6 for every point of Essentia you put into the soulmeld. Would SA dice stack with those dice if the undead were denied their Dex bonus and you were able to SA undead?
The_sleeper1 11-25-07, 02:17 PM	yes. To use SA you need to fullfill all the conditions of SA and that is independent of any other conditions your fullfilling.