Feat that lets you critical on undead? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Feat that lets you critical on undead? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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ImABanana
08-13-07, 01:43 AM I know it wouldn't make much sense and would be incredibly broken but does this exist? If so what book? And how about sneak attacking?
fastspawn
08-13-07, 04:20 AM Its not a feat, but a substitution level for either trapsense of uncanny dodge (i forgot).

Its called penetrating strike. Whenever you flank a non-crit bugger (not just undead), you apply half your sneak dice. Note its only for flanking, so no hiding and sniping.
Ocom
08-13-07, 04:49 AM There is a nice item in Magic Item Compendium that let's you sneak attack them. Also there is a Prestige class somewhere with this ability. And a feat like this should already be in a WotC published 3.5 system book. But I belive it only applied to intelligent undead.

I can't remember if it was in an official book or homebrew but i have heard something about Ranger/Rogues that sneak attack favoured enemies that are normally immune.

I apologize for having no specific books but i do not have access to the books at the moment.
Egres
08-13-07, 08:25 AM Yes, Razing Strike, from the Complete Adventurer (CAdv).

There are also other ways to sneak attack undead: the following are just a few examples.

- Destructive Attack, Dragon #297 (you must have a Death attack to use it);

- Greater Truedeath crystal from the Magic Item Compendium;

- Penetrating Strike (alternative class feature) in Dungeonscape replaces Trap Sense and allows 1/2 sneak attack dice to creatures normally immune to sneak attack damage, but it only applies to flankable creatures;

- Grave strike spell, that makes you able to sneak attack undead (found in the Spell Compendium, page 107;

- Death's Ruin (alternative class feature) in Complete Champion allows you to sneak attack undead creatures, but with only one-half your normal sneak attack dice.
Templario
08-13-07, 08:28 AM There is the Grave Strike spell. Divine (probably cast by clerics), lets you sneak the lich's butt!

For plants, Vine Strike. probably cast by druids

both level 1
CainJustice
08-13-07, 08:38 AM try a sacred burst weapon from the magic item compendium....deals extra damage in crit. vs. undead.
DrRufio
08-13-07, 02:23 PM I can't remember if it was in an official book or homebrew but i have heard something about Ranger/Rogues that sneak attack favoured enemies that are normally immune.

Ranger/Scouts can apply skirmish damage to crit immune favored enemies with the swift hunter feat (CS). I am unsure if there is a similar feat for ranger/rogues.
Bukowski
08-13-07, 02:59 PM Deathstrike gauntlets in MIC let you crit on undead/contructs a set number of times per day.
Thane26425
08-13-07, 05:06 PM There is the Ghost Strike weapon enchantment from Item Compendium. It allows regular attacks against incorporal undead as well as critical hits against all undead.
BugHunter
08-13-07, 05:51 PM The Crystal of Greater Truedeath (MIC not sure of page) is what you want to use.
ImABanana
08-13-07, 06:09 PM OK thanks guys. I'll check out Razing Strike and the Deathstrike Gauntlets because a friend of mine has Complete Adv and the MIC.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
ImABanana 08-13-07, 01:43 AM	I know it wouldn't make much sense and would be incredibly broken but does this exist? If so what book? And how about sneak attacking?
fastspawn 08-13-07, 04:20 AM	Its not a feat, but a substitution level for either trapsense of uncanny dodge (i forgot). Its called penetrating strike. Whenever you flank a non-crit bugger (not just undead), you apply half your sneak dice. Note its only for flanking, so no hiding and sniping.
Ocom 08-13-07, 04:49 AM	There is a nice item in Magic Item Compendium that let's you sneak attack them. Also there is a Prestige class somewhere with this ability. And a feat like this should already be in a WotC published 3.5 system book. But I belive it only applied to intelligent undead. I can't remember if it was in an official book or homebrew but i have heard something about Ranger/Rogues that sneak attack favoured enemies that are normally immune. I apologize for having no specific books but i do not have access to the books at the moment.
Egres 08-13-07, 08:25 AM	Yes, Razing Strike, from the Complete Adventurer (CAdv). There are also other ways to sneak attack undead: the following are just a few examples. - Destructive Attack, Dragon #297 (you must have a Death attack to use it); - Greater Truedeath crystal from the Magic Item Compendium; - Penetrating Strike (alternative class feature) in Dungeonscape replaces Trap Sense and allows 1/2 sneak attack dice to creatures normally immune to sneak attack damage, but it only applies to flankable creatures; - Grave strike spell, that makes you able to sneak attack undead (found in the Spell Compendium, page 107; - Death's Ruin (alternative class feature) in Complete Champion allows you to sneak attack undead creatures, but with only one-half your normal sneak attack dice.
Templario 08-13-07, 08:28 AM	There is the Grave Strike spell. Divine (probably cast by clerics), lets you sneak the lich's butt! For plants, Vine Strike. probably cast by druids both level 1
CainJustice 08-13-07, 08:38 AM	try a sacred burst weapon from the magic item compendium....deals extra damage in crit. vs. undead.
DrRufio 08-13-07, 02:23 PM	I can't remember if it was in an official book or homebrew but i have heard something about Ranger/Rogues that sneak attack favoured enemies that are normally immune. Ranger/Scouts can apply skirmish damage to crit immune favored enemies with the swift hunter feat (CS). I am unsure if there is a similar feat for ranger/rogues.
Bukowski 08-13-07, 02:59 PM	Deathstrike gauntlets in MIC let you crit on undead/contructs a set number of times per day.
Thane26425 08-13-07, 05:06 PM	There is the Ghost Strike weapon enchantment from Item Compendium. It allows regular attacks against incorporal undead as well as critical hits against all undead.
BugHunter 08-13-07, 05:51 PM	The Crystal of Greater Truedeath (MIC not sure of page) is what you want to use.
ImABanana 08-13-07, 06:09 PM	OK thanks guys. I'll check out Razing Strike and the Deathstrike Gauntlets because a friend of mine has Complete Adv and the MIC.