Feats for Rogues and Archers! [Archive] - Wizards Community

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CryoSilver

06-15-07, 12:50 PM
I'm on a roll with new feats. Here's a few for archers and rogues.

Stealthy Sniper
You can snipe and still remain hidden
Benefit: When you attack and then attempt to hide again with a projectile weapon with which you are proficient, you only take a -10 penalty on the Hide check
Normal: The normal penalty to Hide after attack is -20

Extended Precision (general, fighter)
You can place shots with deadly accuracy at long range
Prereqs: Point Blank Shot, Far Shot, Spot 9 ranks, BAB 6+
Benefit: You can gain the benefit of Point Blank Shot at up to 1 base range increment when using a projectile weapon with which you are proficient. Do not apply effects like Far Shot or the Distance property; use the base range increment.
Normal: Point Blank Shot has a 30 foot range limit

Extended Sneak Attack
You can sneak attack foes at long range
Prereqs: Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot, Far Shot, Extended Precision, Spot 12 ranks, BAB 8+
Benefit: You can sneak attack foes at distances of up to 1 range increment (as with Extended Precision) with a projectile weapon in which you are proficient. You can only do this once per round.
Normal: Sneak attack has a 30 foot range limit

Improved Point Blank Shot (general, fighter)
Your ability to place shots with deadly accuracy has improved
Prereqs: Point Blank Shot, BAB 6+
Benefit: Your bonuses from Point Blank Shot increase by +1
tarkin

06-15-07, 01:55 PM
Stealthy Sniper
+15 for this very important action, for a single feat?

Try +4. you take a -16 penalty, not -5. an Improved Version could make it to -12, and a greater version could make it to -8


Extended Precision (general, fighter)
Misinterpreating what Point Blank Shot is. It is not depenedent at all on range, it has nothing to do with the weapon. The nature of it means the weapon is irrelavant. It is how close YOU are for YOU to see accurately and YOU to aim accurately enough, not something dependent on the weapon is. In no way does making this weapon dependent make any sense. Leads to abuse potential, particularly if other things depend on the "Point Blank Range".

Try extending range from 30ft to 60 ft.


Extended Sneak Attack
What I said above. Furthermore there is corrobation. An existing WoTC published Prestige Class ability (I forgot which one) extends this only to 45 ft. Feats are less powerefull than PrC abilities, your concept is overpowered by a lot.

Improved Point Blank Shot (general, fighter)
Increasing a feat that does not state it is has an increase available?

Acceptable feat, but needs more pre-reqs. Like say a BAB of 6+
CryoSilver

06-15-07, 02:04 PM
Stealthy Sniper
+15 for this very important action, for a single feat?

Try +4. you take a -16 penalty, not -5. an Improved Version could make it to -12, and a greater version could make it to -8
And no one will ever take them ever because by that point Greater Invisibility will be used instead. Besides that, the only class that can blow 4 feats on shooting an arrow once per round is a fighter, which doesn't have Hide as a skill.

Maybe adjusting it down to a -10 penalty, but only reducing the penalty to -16? That's worthless at the levels where this feat will be needed.


Extended Precision (general, fighter)
Misinterpreating what Point Blank Shot is. It is not depenedent at all on range, it has nothing to do with the weapon. Leads to abuse potential, particularly if other things depend on the "Point Blank Range".

Try extending range from 30ft to 60 ft.

I'm not "interpreting" anything other than in the flavor text. Point Blank Shot (regardless of the name) is a +1 bonus to hit/damage at limited range. This increases the range. Besides that, it specifically says "benefits of Point Blank Shot," not "range dependent effects."

My point here was to allow archers to function well outside of melee range. 60 feet is how far most creatures can charge, so a 60 foot ranged combat closes to melee after one shot.

Extended Sneak Attack
What I said above. Furthermore there is corrobation. An existing WoTC published feat (or Prestige Class ability - I forgot which) extends this to 45 ft. One range increment is overpowered by a lot.

Do they allow it to be used more than once per round? That's the limiting factor of this feat. The Order of the Bow Initiate increases the range of all range-dependent things to 60 feet.

Improved Point Blank Shot (general, fighter)
Increasing a feat that does not state it is has an increase available?

Acceptable feat, but needs more pre-reqs. Like say a BAB of 6+
Probably.