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JWT 06-18-07, 10:01 AM	Is there a feat along the lines of Practiced Spellcaster, or Aesthetic Rogue that wil allow the Druid's Wildshape to improve by a certain amount, up to their Character level? How about one for the Animal Companion? Thanks in advance.
Dark1ord 06-18-07, 11:05 AM	animal companion - natural bond (cadv 111). as for wild shape... haven't seen anything to that effect.
JWT 06-18-07, 11:13 AM	I wonder then if, for wildshape, this is a viable feat that I can insert into my game? Perhaps it only gives a +2 the effective Druid level? For Example: Practiced Wildshaper (Wild) Prerequisites: Int 13, one other wild feat Description: Through training and insight you can recover some of your wildshape abilities that you lost due to focusing on other aspects of your career. Benefit: You get a +2 bonus to your effective Druid level for the purposes of determining your wildshape abilities. This can not increase your effective Druid level above your current character level. Improved Practiced Wildshaper (Wild) Prerequisites: Practiced Wildshaper Description: Through training and insight you can recover some of your wildshape abilities that you lost due to focusing on other aspects of your career. Benefit: You get a +2 bonus to your effective Druid level for the purposes of determining your wildshape abilities. Special: This bonus stacks with Practiced Wildshaper, for a total of +4 to your effective druid level. This can not increase your effective Druid level above your current character level. Alternatively, I was thinking just the one feat with a +3 bonus. But I like the idea of making the Druid who wants to pump up thier most powerful ability burn off some valuable feats. What do ya'll think? ETA: CL cap to increase.
BuffaloGM 06-18-07, 01:05 PM	Druids are a pretty good class and Wildshape is a key reason why, imo. Wildshape can possibly aid you in movement, recon, survivability, and versitlity ... all wrapped in one package. In combat , with the use of Natural spell and the Spell Compendium, a Wildshaped druid can wreak untold destruction across the battlefield. This damage tends to scale up from low to high levels , as spell choice and Wildshape improve as you gain druid levels. I think that a feat that improves Wildshape in the way you describe seems innocent enough but could be 'optimized' to the point of overpowered. I think thats why a feat like you mention doesn't exist in game, yet.
Tempest Stormwind 06-18-07, 01:09 PM	Wait, you want Wild Shape to be better? The ONLY reason you wouldn't be taking those feats at the earliest possible opportunity is because you want Natural Spell. If a feat is so good that it needs a FSBNNR feat to delay you taking it, they're overpowered.
JWT 06-18-07, 01:31 PM	Wait, you want Wild Shape to be better? The ONLY reason you wouldn't be taking those feats at the earliest possible opportunity is because you want Natural Spell. If a feat is so good that it needs a FSBNNR feat to delay you taking it, they're overpowered. Whoops. I left out some crucial info for the feat. Edited to add in a Character level cap. The goal is to make it like Practiced Spellcaster only for wildshape. Along those lines, I edited the name of the feats as well. That being said. I certainly understand the precautions to increasing Wildshape, but with a character level cap in mind, and ability score prerequisite is it possible that the use of precious, precious feats AND the CL cap might reign in the power level?
Tempest Stormwind 06-18-07, 03:55 PM	Dude, the druid already never multiclasses except into classes which advance wild shape. There's only two that most druids would ever consider -- Moonspeaker and Planar Shepherd. Master of Many Forms is another oddball possibility for the same reason. A druid could utterly OWN the rest of the game without any feats (and own it solidly with Natural Spell). They may be feat-tight, but all their feats are pure gravy. Spending a feat to keep up isn't a cost for a druid.
JWT 06-18-07, 04:19 PM	Dude, the druid already never multiclasses except into classes which advance wild shape. There's only two that most druids would ever consider -- Moonspeaker and Planar Shepherd. Master of Many Forms is another oddball possibility for the same reason. A druid could utterly OWN the rest of the game without any feats (and own it solidly with Natural Spell). They may be feat-tight, but all their feats are pure gravy. Spending a feat to keep up isn't a cost for a druid. Fair enough. I still like the concept, but in practice, it would my other players fun. Shame, but that be the Druid, I guess.
selenia 06-19-07, 04:54 PM	I have never seen such a feat, but there is an amulet in magic of fearun that adds +4 to your effective druid level for wildshape. It is a bit expensive. 40.000 gp I beleive
Tempest Stormwind 06-19-07, 05:36 PM	I have never seen such a feat, but there is an amulet in magic of fearun that adds +4 to your effective druid level for wildshape. It is a bit expensive. 40.000 gp I beleive And it isn't expensive enough. Even for Faerun, with Ed Greenwood's love affair with druids and divine magic, it's cheap -- in both senses of the term.
mtbOgre 06-20-07, 01:00 AM	I wonder then if, for wildshape, this is a viable feat that I can insert into my game? Perhaps it only gives a +2 the effective Druid level? This seems overpowered to me. Imagine the equivalent feats for other classes. Practiced Backstabber Prerequisites: Int 13, one other rogue feat Description: Through training and insight you can recover some of your sneak attack abilities that you lost due to focusing on other aspects of your career. Benefit: You get a +2 bonus to your effective Rogue level for the purposes of determining your sneak attack abilities. This can not increase your effective Rogue level above your current character level. Hmm...
Dark1ord 06-20-07, 06:19 AM	[...] Practiced Backstabber [...] hehe... have you seen the (e.g.) daring outlaw feat? "catching up" (however partial it would be) with regards to multiclassing seems like one of those power-slide choices to make...