Feats: Unapproachable; Training [Archive] - Wizards Community

Feats: Unapproachable; Training [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Narris
03-25-07, 07:43 PM Unapproachable

Prerequisites: Dex 13, Int 13, Combat Expertise, Dodge, Mobility, Spring Attack, Combat Reflexes, Improved Initiative, Whirlwind Attack

Benefit: Attacks on you provoke attacks of opportunity

Training

Benefit: On levels where you do not gain feats or a class ability, you may spend one week and 1000gp, or the prevailing price to learn one feat that you meet the prerequisites for. You must find a trainer capable of training you in that specific feat, by having that same feat themselves.
Raymond_Luxury_Yacht
03-25-07, 08:00 PM Unapproachable is ridiculously overpowered.
bobothechimp
03-25-07, 08:23 PM As is training.
Tharivol_Nailo
03-26-07, 03:22 PM I don't like unappraochable. However if you increased the gold pirce and maybe added a small xp cost, training would be ok.
bobothechimp
03-26-07, 04:42 PM Training is absolutely ridiculous. A cleric can gain a feat at every level past one!
tarkin
03-26-07, 04:50 PM Nice Epic feats!
(Assuming that Training only lets you get non-epic feats)

To make them non-epic, try the following:

Unapproachable= Robilar's Gambit/Karmic Strike, your choice.

Training =
Fighter is now a favored class for you. You may take levels in it without an XP penalty. (i.e. you get fighter bonus feats)
benihana
03-26-07, 05:31 PM I would make it limited to feats that have absolutely no prerequisites, up the cost, and include gaining a new level of spells (but not extra spells/day) as a class feature. And I would make some sort of check where you see if there is even someone available that week that can train you.
PhaedrusXY
03-26-07, 10:38 PM Unapproachable is fine. Robiliar's Gambit already does the same thing, but with lower prereqs and a drawback.

Training (and any mechanism like it) is overwhelmingly broken.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Narris 03-25-07, 07:43 PM	Unapproachable Prerequisites: Dex 13, Int 13, Combat Expertise, Dodge, Mobility, Spring Attack, Combat Reflexes, Improved Initiative, Whirlwind Attack Benefit: Attacks on you provoke attacks of opportunity Training Benefit: On levels where you do not gain feats or a class ability, you may spend one week and 1000gp, or the prevailing price to learn one feat that you meet the prerequisites for. You must find a trainer capable of training you in that specific feat, by having that same feat themselves.
Raymond_Luxury_Yacht 03-25-07, 08:00 PM	Unapproachable is ridiculously overpowered.
bobothechimp 03-25-07, 08:23 PM	As is training.
Tharivol_Nailo 03-26-07, 03:22 PM	I don't like unappraochable. However if you increased the gold pirce and maybe added a small xp cost, training would be ok.
bobothechimp 03-26-07, 04:42 PM	Training is absolutely ridiculous. A cleric can gain a feat at every level past one!
tarkin 03-26-07, 04:50 PM	Nice Epic feats! (Assuming that Training only lets you get non-epic feats) To make them non-epic, try the following: Unapproachable= Robilar's Gambit/Karmic Strike, your choice. Training = Fighter is now a favored class for you. You may take levels in it without an XP penalty. (i.e. you get fighter bonus feats)
benihana 03-26-07, 05:31 PM	I would make it limited to feats that have absolutely no prerequisites, up the cost, and include gaining a new level of spells (but not extra spells/day) as a class feature. And I would make some sort of check where you see if there is even someone available that week that can train you.
PhaedrusXY 03-26-07, 10:38 PM	Unapproachable is fine. Robiliar's Gambit already does the same thing, but with lower prereqs and a drawback. Training (and any mechanism like it) is overwhelmingly broken.