Fighter needs help concentrating [Archive] - Wizards Community

Fighter needs help concentrating [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Sir_Chivalry
12-12-07, 11:33 PM Is there a way for fighters to have Concentration as a class skill? I'm trying to qualify for the Death Delver, and concentration is important, 8 ranks to qualify.
Saiyamantis
12-13-07, 12:30 AM Multiclass into something that has it. That's the only way I know.
Silvercrys
12-13-07, 12:43 AM There's a feat from Faerun (not sure which book, may be Player's Guide to Faerun) called Cosmopolitan that makes a chosen skill a class skill for all of your classes.
InkBlot
12-13-07, 03:12 AM Martial Study gives you a single maneuver, and gives you the key skill for that maneuver's discipline as a class skill for all your classes. So use Martial Study to pick up a Diamond Mind maneuver, and you get Concentration as a class skill.

Martial Study is from Tome Of Battle.

But do you absolutely need it as a class skill? Skill Focus, cross-class ranks, and a high Constution will get you a very good modifier.
Black Mantha
12-13-07, 06:44 AM But do you absolutely need it as a class skill? Skill Focus, cross-class ranks, and a high Constution will get you a very good modifier.
He doesn't need a high modifier, he needs 8 ranks.
Ace_of_time
12-13-07, 08:20 AM Skill knowledge feat from UA. Lets you choose 2 skills from one class to be class skills in the 2nd class or you can choose 1 cross class skil and treat it as a class skill. On page 81.
Orchomenos
12-14-07, 11:32 AM Able Learner, RoD. Racial feat for human and dopplegangers (?), let you treat ALL skills as class-skill.
InkBlot
12-14-07, 11:48 AM Able Learner doesn't give you class skills. It just decreases the cost of cross-class skills. A Fighter with Able Learner would still have to wait until 13th level to get 8 ranks in Concentration.

He doesn't need a high modifier, he needs 8 ranks.
Whoops. I blame lack of sleep.

I also forgot to mention that Martial Study is a Fighter feat with no prerequisites.
aelryinth
12-14-07, 01:01 PM Martial Study is definitely your best bet.

Use it to pick up the Diamond Mind manuver that subs your Concentration roll for your Will save.

Alternately, I'd grab a level in Warblade first, so you have access to a refresh mechanism, otherwise you can only use said Manuver once an encounter. That way, you can also grab Emerald Razor and the COncentration/Reflex save, too. Warblade gets 4 skill points, so that will send you a good distance towards your 8 ranks, too.

===Aelryinth

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Sir_Chivalry 12-12-07, 11:33 PM	Is there a way for fighters to have Concentration as a class skill? I'm trying to qualify for the Death Delver, and concentration is important, 8 ranks to qualify.
Saiyamantis 12-13-07, 12:30 AM	Multiclass into something that has it. That's the only way I know.
Silvercrys 12-13-07, 12:43 AM	There's a feat from Faerun (not sure which book, may be Player's Guide to Faerun) called Cosmopolitan that makes a chosen skill a class skill for all of your classes.
InkBlot 12-13-07, 03:12 AM	Martial Study gives you a single maneuver, and gives you the key skill for that maneuver's discipline as a class skill for all your classes. So use Martial Study to pick up a Diamond Mind maneuver, and you get Concentration as a class skill. Martial Study is from Tome Of Battle. But do you absolutely need it as a class skill? Skill Focus, cross-class ranks, and a high Constution will get you a very good modifier.
Black Mantha 12-13-07, 06:44 AM	But do you absolutely need it as a class skill? Skill Focus, cross-class ranks, and a high Constution will get you a very good modifier. He doesn't need a high modifier, he needs 8 ranks.
Ace_of_time 12-13-07, 08:20 AM	Skill knowledge feat from UA. Lets you choose 2 skills from one class to be class skills in the 2nd class or you can choose 1 cross class skil and treat it as a class skill. On page 81.
Orchomenos 12-14-07, 11:32 AM	Able Learner, RoD. Racial feat for human and dopplegangers (?), let you treat ALL skills as class-skill.
InkBlot 12-14-07, 11:48 AM	Able Learner doesn't give you class skills. It just decreases the cost of cross-class skills. A Fighter with Able Learner would still have to wait until 13th level to get 8 ranks in Concentration. He doesn't need a high modifier, he needs 8 ranks. Whoops. I blame lack of sleep. I also forgot to mention that Martial Study is a Fighter feat with no prerequisites.
aelryinth 12-14-07, 01:01 PM	Martial Study is definitely your best bet. Use it to pick up the Diamond Mind manuver that subs your Concentration roll for your Will save. Alternately, I'd grab a level in Warblade first, so you have access to a refresh mechanism, otherwise you can only use said Manuver once an encounter. That way, you can also grab Emerald Razor and the COncentration/Reflex save, too. Warblade gets 4 skill points, so that will send you a good distance towards your 8 ranks, too. ===Aelryinth