Fighter/Rogue help [Archive] - Wizards Community

Fighter/Rogue help [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Adonis1x23
03-21-08, 06:10 PM Is there a feat that lets Rogue and Fighter levels stack for sneak attack damage?

I know there is one for rogue/monk, rogue/swashbuckler, rogue/ninja and etc., but I cannot find any for rogue/fighter.
Mad_Jack
03-22-08, 07:15 AM Not that I'm aware of...
Shaggy_Shaggs
03-22-08, 10:56 AM I'm not aware of anything to do this, either. However, I do know of a feat to allow any hitdice (even racial) contribute to making sneak attack work harder in a different way.

Craven, from Champions of Ruin, increases your sneak attack damage by +1 per character level. It also imposes a -2 penalty on your saves vs fear effects, so that's kind of a pain in the ass.
no-sides-sameeth
03-23-08, 12:01 AM No, but Daring Outlaw (CS) allows Swashbuckler and Rogue to stack for SA, as well as Grace and Dodge. Swashbuckler isn't great, but it is superior to Fighter in many Seak Attack builds. I mean, Swashbuckler 1 is Fighter 1 with better skills and the bonus feat preselected. Oddly, Martial Stalker (also CS) which stacks Ninja and Fighter does not stack for Sudden Strike damage.
Adonis1x23
03-23-08, 01:11 PM I am aware of what Daring Outlaw does, I think I even mentioned it in the OP.

I am actually making a Rogue4/Swashbuckler3/Fighter.

Originaly I was just going to take Daring Outlaw and Daring Warrior, but I don't think that will stack for sneak attack damage and fighter levels.
no-sides-sameeth
03-23-08, 03:47 PM I know you did. I was just expressing my belief in the primacy of the Swashbuckler for Fighter/Thief builds. That being said, what about the SA Thug Variant Fighter in the D20 SRD? He looses heavy armor and bonus feats for better skills and SA progression.
ciaran
03-23-08, 05:32 PM You mean UA, for Unearthed Arcana. I've made a character with each of those. I'll just say that someone with a full BAB and light armor - but no Tumble - needs to watch his step.
no-sides-sameeth
03-23-08, 09:02 PM The variant isin UA, yes. However, SA stood for Sneak Attack in my post, but yes, you can find the variant I am speaking of in UA. If you are playing a Rogue/Swash/Fighter you should be fine on ranks in Tumble.

There is also a race in Sandstorm that starts with, I think 2d6 SA, but if you already have a race, that won't help.

I think Daring Warrior is a bit of a trap. You have to take 4 levels of Fighter, and you have to use your feats on the Weapon Specialization tree. I don't think I would do either.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Adonis1x23 03-21-08, 06:10 PM	Is there a feat that lets Rogue and Fighter levels stack for sneak attack damage? I know there is one for rogue/monk, rogue/swashbuckler, rogue/ninja and etc., but I cannot find any for rogue/fighter.
Mad_Jack 03-22-08, 07:15 AM	Not that I'm aware of...
Shaggy_Shaggs 03-22-08, 10:56 AM	I'm not aware of anything to do this, either. However, I do know of a feat to allow any hitdice (even racial) contribute to making sneak attack work harder in a different way. Craven, from Champions of Ruin, increases your sneak attack damage by +1 per character level. It also imposes a -2 penalty on your saves vs fear effects, so that's kind of a pain in the ass.
no-sides-sameeth 03-23-08, 12:01 AM	No, but Daring Outlaw (CS) allows Swashbuckler and Rogue to stack for SA, as well as Grace and Dodge. Swashbuckler isn't great, but it is superior to Fighter in many Seak Attack builds. I mean, Swashbuckler 1 is Fighter 1 with better skills and the bonus feat preselected. Oddly, Martial Stalker (also CS) which stacks Ninja and Fighter does not stack for Sudden Strike damage.
Adonis1x23 03-23-08, 01:11 PM	I am aware of what Daring Outlaw does, I think I even mentioned it in the OP. I am actually making a Rogue4/Swashbuckler3/Fighter. Originaly I was just going to take Daring Outlaw and Daring Warrior, but I don't think that will stack for sneak attack damage and fighter levels.
no-sides-sameeth 03-23-08, 03:47 PM	I know you did. I was just expressing my belief in the primacy of the Swashbuckler for Fighter/Thief builds. That being said, what about the SA Thug Variant Fighter in the D20 SRD? He looses heavy armor and bonus feats for better skills and SA progression.
ciaran 03-23-08, 05:32 PM	You mean UA, for Unearthed Arcana. I've made a character with each of those. I'll just say that someone with a full BAB and light armor - but no Tumble - needs to watch his step.
no-sides-sameeth 03-23-08, 09:02 PM	The variant isin UA, yes. However, SA stood for Sneak Attack in my post, but yes, you can find the variant I am speaking of in UA. If you are playing a Rogue/Swash/Fighter you should be fine on ranks in Tumble. There is also a race in Sandstorm that starts with, I think 2d6 SA, but if you already have a race, that won't help. I think Daring Warrior is a bit of a trap. You have to take 4 levels of Fighter, and you have to use your feats on the Weapon Specialization tree. I don't think I would do either.