Post/Author/DateTime	Post
sirdanile 12-25-07, 11:53 AM	Fists of steel Prerequisites: Great fortitude or dwarf, improved unarmed strike, fists of iron, constitution 15, strength 16, Base attack bonus +10 Benefit: Increase your unarmed strike damage by two size categories and can put enchanted spikes onto your fists that can contain up to 5th level melee touch spells or be shaped specially and contain 3rd level melee touch spells. These spells activate (unlimited charge) when you roll a 12 or higher on your attack roll. All the spikes for both your fists must be the same and only one spell activates per “12.” What you lose for taking this feat: 2 constitution, 1 strength (permanently), 5% spell chance failure, 25% chance for spells with somatic components, 2% chance of losing the use of your hands, if you get this you may get greater resoration cast to retrain the feat or a miracle or a wish will restore you hand to use and you can keep the feat or retrain it. You get a -2 penalty to dexterity based skill checks (Usually involving hands but at dms choice may include others.) Spike type Damage Attack bonus Other Cost Normal spike 0 0 Spells up to 5th 3000 per spell level +10 x caster level of the spell Twisted spike +1d4 0 Spells up to 3rd Rules for spell cost + 1000 Reach spike 0 +1 Spells up to 3rd Rules for spell cost + 1000 Fang spike + poison 0 Spells up to 3rd Rules for spell cost + 10000 Se spike + 2 bleeding for 3 rounds, does not stack. 1 Spells up to 3rd Rules for spell cost + 8000 Pincer spike +1d4 3 Spells up to 3rd Rules for spell cost + 12000 Spell storing -2 0 Two spells of up to 3rd Double rules for spell cost + 10000 Studs + 1d6 bludgeoning damage 0 Spells up to 3rd Rules for spell cost + 1500 Wrap around -4 0 Spells up to 3rd +2 Armor class Rules for spell cost + 7000 Fish hooks +1d8 during grappling 0 Spell of up to 3rd +5 on grapple check. Rules for spell cost + 14000 (note the losses and the spikes section were supposed to be on a graph from word)
WackyOne 12-25-07, 12:22 PM	I need to ask... why? If you want to play a monk/wizard, there's prestige classes that help out - and allow you to cast touch spells as part of a full attack, the same thing you're looking for with this feat. And when they take the rapid stunning feat, to cast more than 1 touch spell within a full attack, they are generally considered "broken". If you just want a quick fix for a non-spellcasting monk, 2 spellstoring "brass knuckles" (or nunchakus) should be enough. If you want to go overboard, take 2 bloodstone, spellstoring weapons - you'll "cast" 4 3rd level spells, 2 of which empowered, each encounter (get some wands to your party wizard, to recharge your fists between fights). Any more than that, and you'd have to ask yourself why you aren't a (part-time at least) spellcaster.
sirdanile 12-25-07, 12:37 PM	The requirements for the magic to get used might need a little tweaking, my goal here is to basically be able to bring the straight monk up to damage standards as well as make it feasible for other classes to take, the good touch attacks are 4th level+ while the 3rd level- touch attacks are ok and cost effective. Other classes would have a reason to use this as well, a fighter specializing on unarmed combat, a psionic warrior making use of the psionic fist chain, a rogue making sneak attacks, an ape totem barbarian, the list goes on. I must admit I got the idea from rereading Eldest but I thought I could make it work into D&D so that it is balanced but that classes other than monk would like to take it as well. Which prestige classes allow monks to do that? I might not have the book that class is in. As it stands now a monk would need level 14 to enter while a fighter would need level 10.
dman11235 12-25-07, 03:59 PM	...wha? This is confusing. So confusing. But what it looks like is that you took the Enlightened Fist PrC (CArcane), made it a feat, and made it worse, and made it wierd. And gave it confusing mechanics. And gave an unreasonable damage boost. INA is only a +1 size category. Also, there is no reason to have this feat.
sirdanile 12-26-07, 02:00 PM	It looks better with the tables but you can't make those here... I agree it might be a little complex... (looks up enlightened fist) wow I really didnt know that was there... Any suggestions on how to simplify/enhance it?
dman11235 12-26-07, 03:52 PM	Okay, let me ask what you want this feat to DO.