Fort. for Will save??? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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zuul88

05-03-07, 06:38 PM
Is there a feat that substitutes a Fortitude save for a Willpower save???
Thank You

Nathan
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jadehawk

05-03-07, 06:43 PM
There's one that is close. Steadfast Determination allows you to apply Constitution instead of Wisdom to Will saves. It also prevents you from auto-failing fortitude saves on natural 1s. It requires endurance as a prerequisite, and I can't remember what book it is from.
Cariyaga

05-03-07, 06:54 PM
There's also one that makes Will saves Charisma based. I'm gonna need to get that soon, with my 8 wisdom character.
jadehawk

05-03-07, 06:56 PM
There's also one that makes Will saves Charisma based. I'm gonna need to get that soon, with my 8 wisdom character.

Right. I think that's force of personality?
Cariyaga

05-03-07, 07:01 PM
Yup. I think it's in Complete Adventurer...right?
allenchan

05-03-07, 09:01 PM
Force of personality doesnt apply to all will saves, iirc.
zuul88

05-06-07, 03:13 AM
Well basically I was trying to get mettle without taking a class for the thief/fighter in my party. His reflex and fortitude saves are good but his will save is a +1. To much to ask I guess. Thanks to all who tried to help.

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Nathan
Ulandorf_TheBlue

05-06-07, 09:28 AM
Steadfast Determination is in PHBII
Silverthumb128

05-06-07, 12:50 PM
Force of personality doesnt apply to all will saves, iirc.

Yup. Keen Intellect, which applies Int to all Will saves, as well as several Wis based skill checks, is much better than Force of Personality, which only applies to mind-affecting abilities(I'm pretty sure).