Four rings? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Four rings? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Lord_Cerventes
06-14-07, 07:11 PM I have heard there is a feat that allows you to wear 4 rings. Is this true? What book is it in?
Antioch
06-14-07, 07:23 PM Extra Rings is found in Eberron Campaign Setting.
It does have a few prereqs on it, none as steep as the Epic feat Additional Magic Item Space (which lets you wear one extra ring only if you take it for rings).
Yadot
06-14-07, 07:57 PM Of course, many of the so-called Epic feats are less than epic and worthless.
tarkin
06-14-07, 09:08 PM And some feats are too strong to be called non-epic feats, but people don't want to admit it.

I have seen no epic feat that is not at least a 'good' non-epic feats. Not a single one can be called 'worthless'. The only way you can possibly call them 'worthless' is if you routinely use house rules to make your game far more powerfull than the average existing rules.

But yes, some are worth 'less' than other epic feats.
risner
06-14-07, 09:23 PM There are no worthless epic feats, period.

There is the Extra Rings feat and there is the Hand of Glory item that combined (if allowed) would net you 4 rings.
Dheran
06-15-07, 02:04 AM There is the Extra Rings feat and there is the Hand of Glory item that combined (if allowed) would net you 4 rings. I'm sure you meant 5 rings, because Extra Rings by itself allows using 4 rings on your hands.
Kevin Andrew Murphy
06-15-07, 02:14 AM An unslotted Hand of Glory and a regular Hand of Glory would also let you wear four rings. Of course you'd have to convince your DM to let you make an unslotted Hand of Glory, but it's a possibility.
Chronus13
06-15-07, 09:55 AM Isn't there also a sword of sorts in the Arms and Equipment Guide that lets you benefit from a ring placed on it's handle? Also, I can't remember if you could wield two of those swords with a ring on each to gain additional ring use... but if you can that would be awesome having 7 rings pre-epic.:eek:
Yadot
06-15-07, 01:46 PM There are no worthless epic feats, period.

There is the Extra Rings feat and there is the Hand of Glory item that combined (if allowed) would net you 4 rings.
What about Chaotic Rage? Spend one of your precious feats for an ability worth 8,000 gp. But the 8,000 gp is 1% of your monetary resources and the feat is 12.5%. Did I mention the feat only works while raging? Ignore Material Components doesn't remove focuses and nearly every spell costs a pittance at epic levels. Epic Weapon Specialization only adds +4 to damage. +4! A +1 enchantment can do more than that. There is no denying that many epic feat are good (such as Lingering Damage), but quite a few are not.
Fallenangel359
06-15-07, 03:03 PM I made a character that had epic weapon focus, and epic weapon specialization...
twas an archer...

Out damaged the mage, which is kinda impressive considering the mage would maw of chaos for 26-31d6 (wildmage)
risner
06-15-07, 03:41 PM What about Chaotic Rage?
Ignore Material Components
Epic Weapon Specialization only adds +4 to damage. +4!

Every one of those feats are considerably more powerful than other non epic feats.

As for your +4 to damage, are you serious?
WS (at +2) is only beat by MWM in pre-epic arena.

If you are going to tell me one of the top three feats if not the best damage increasing feat is not good, I am going to tell you that you can't do math. ;-)

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Lord_Cerventes 06-14-07, 07:11 PM	I have heard there is a feat that allows you to wear 4 rings. Is this true? What book is it in?
Antioch 06-14-07, 07:23 PM	Extra Rings is found in Eberron Campaign Setting. It does have a few prereqs on it, none as steep as the Epic feat Additional Magic Item Space (which lets you wear one extra ring only if you take it for rings).
Yadot 06-14-07, 07:57 PM	Of course, many of the so-called Epic feats are less than epic and worthless.
tarkin 06-14-07, 09:08 PM	And some feats are too strong to be called non-epic feats, but people don't want to admit it. I have seen no epic feat that is not at least a 'good' non-epic feats. Not a single one can be called 'worthless'. The only way you can possibly call them 'worthless' is if you routinely use house rules to make your game far more powerfull than the average existing rules. But yes, some are worth 'less' than other epic feats.
risner 06-14-07, 09:23 PM	There are no worthless epic feats, period. There is the Extra Rings feat and there is the Hand of Glory item that combined (if allowed) would net you 4 rings.
Dheran 06-15-07, 02:04 AM	There is the Extra Rings feat and there is the Hand of Glory item that combined (if allowed) would net you 4 rings. I'm sure you meant 5 rings, because Extra Rings by itself allows using 4 rings on your hands.
Kevin Andrew Murphy 06-15-07, 02:14 AM	An unslotted Hand of Glory and a regular Hand of Glory would also let you wear four rings. Of course you'd have to convince your DM to let you make an unslotted Hand of Glory, but it's a possibility.
Chronus13 06-15-07, 09:55 AM	Isn't there also a sword of sorts in the Arms and Equipment Guide that lets you benefit from a ring placed on it's handle? Also, I can't remember if you could wield two of those swords with a ring on each to gain additional ring use... but if you can that would be awesome having 7 rings pre-epic.:eek:
Yadot 06-15-07, 01:46 PM	There are no worthless epic feats, period. There is the Extra Rings feat and there is the Hand of Glory item that combined (if allowed) would net you 4 rings. What about Chaotic Rage? Spend one of your precious feats for an ability worth 8,000 gp. But the 8,000 gp is 1% of your monetary resources and the feat is 12.5%. Did I mention the feat only works while raging? Ignore Material Components doesn't remove focuses and nearly every spell costs a pittance at epic levels. Epic Weapon Specialization only adds +4 to damage. +4! A +1 enchantment can do more than that. There is no denying that many epic feat are good (such as Lingering Damage), but quite a few are not.
Fallenangel359 06-15-07, 03:03 PM	I made a character that had epic weapon focus, and epic weapon specialization... twas an archer... Out damaged the mage, which is kinda impressive considering the mage would maw of chaos for 26-31d6 (wildmage)
risner 06-15-07, 03:41 PM	What about Chaotic Rage? Ignore Material Components Epic Weapon Specialization only adds +4 to damage. +4! Every one of those feats are considerably more powerful than other non epic feats. As for your +4 to damage, are you serious? WS (at +2) is only beat by MWM in pre-epic arena. If you are going to tell me one of the top three feats if not the best damage increasing feat is not good, I am going to tell you that you can't do math. ;-)