Frenzied berserker and combat brute [Archive] - Wizards Community

Frenzied berserker and combat brute [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Slad Chaos
06-27-07, 03:55 PM Hello,
if a frenzied berserker used the supreme power attack with the combat brute feat with a two handed weapon, did the + 4 damage bonus / - 1 penalty attack multiply by 3 with this tactical feat or not ?

For example, if the penalty attack is - 10 , is the bonus damage equal 120 (+ 40 x 3) or not ?

Thanks for your future answer.
RobbyPants
06-27-07, 04:09 PM This has to do with how you handle multipliers in D&D. You do not simply multiply the 4 by 3 to get 12. The way it's handled is you add them together and then subtract 1. So, in this case, your multiplier will end up being 6 (4 + 3 - 1 = 6).

Long story short, if you take -10 to hit, you will get +60 damage.

Here (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/theBasics.htm#multiplying) if the section of the SRD (http://www.d20srd.org) that explains how it works.
Slad Chaos
06-27-07, 04:35 PM I want also if the combat brute feat apply or not ?
Gilfalas_Elaandrin
06-27-07, 07:12 PM If your askung if your Frenzied Berserker can shift his minus to hit from Power Attack to his AC instead with Combat Brute the answer is yes.
Slad Chaos
06-28-07, 02:21 AM No, I want to know if the multiply from combat brute apply on the damage bonus from the frenzied berserker or replace it ?
Ellone
06-28-07, 07:01 AM they are added, not multiplied.

combat brute increase your twho handed power attack multiplier from 2 to 3?
that's +1
frienzed berserker increase two handed power attack multiplier from 2 to 4? that's +2.

added together, the final bonus is +3 and a final 5 for 1 ratio.
RobbyPants
06-28-07, 09:38 AM they are added, not multiplied.

combat brute increase your twho handed power attack multiplier from 2 to 3?
that's +1
frienzed berserker increase two handed power attack multiplier from 2 to 4? that's +2.

added together, the final bonus is +3 and a final 5 for 1 ratio.
You're right. I added one too many into my first calculation, which is funny. I've always run this in the past as 5:1. I don't know how I missed that! :eek: I just blindly applied the multiplier rules without looking at what I was really doing. ;)
Dark1ord
06-28-07, 10:14 AM If your askung if your Frenzied Berserker can shift his minus to hit from Power Attack to his AC instead with Combat Brute the answer is yes.
that's shock trooper/heedless charge, not combat brute/momentum swing.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Slad Chaos 06-27-07, 03:55 PM	Hello, if a frenzied berserker used the supreme power attack with the combat brute feat with a two handed weapon, did the + 4 damage bonus / - 1 penalty attack multiply by 3 with this tactical feat or not ? For example, if the penalty attack is - 10 , is the bonus damage equal 120 (+ 40 x 3) or not ? Thanks for your future answer.
RobbyPants 06-27-07, 04:09 PM	This has to do with how you handle multipliers in D&D. You do not simply multiply the 4 by 3 to get 12. The way it's handled is you add them together and then subtract 1. So, in this case, your multiplier will end up being 6 (4 + 3 - 1 = 6). Long story short, if you take -10 to hit, you will get +60 damage. Here (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/theBasics.htm#multiplying) if the section of the SRD (http://www.d20srd.org) that explains how it works.
Slad Chaos 06-27-07, 04:35 PM	I want also if the combat brute feat apply or not ?
Gilfalas_Elaandrin 06-27-07, 07:12 PM	If your askung if your Frenzied Berserker can shift his minus to hit from Power Attack to his AC instead with Combat Brute the answer is yes.
Slad Chaos 06-28-07, 02:21 AM	No, I want to know if the multiply from combat brute apply on the damage bonus from the frenzied berserker or replace it ?
Ellone 06-28-07, 07:01 AM	they are added, not multiplied. combat brute increase your twho handed power attack multiplier from 2 to 3? that's +1 frienzed berserker increase two handed power attack multiplier from 2 to 4? that's +2. added together, the final bonus is +3 and a final 5 for 1 ratio.
RobbyPants 06-28-07, 09:38 AM	they are added, not multiplied. combat brute increase your twho handed power attack multiplier from 2 to 3? that's +1 frienzed berserker increase two handed power attack multiplier from 2 to 4? that's +2. added together, the final bonus is +3 and a final 5 for 1 ratio. You're right. I added one too many into my first calculation, which is funny. I've always run this in the past as 5:1. I don't know how I missed that! :eek: I just blindly applied the multiplier rules without looking at what I was really doing. ;)
Dark1ord 06-28-07, 10:14 AM	If your askung if your Frenzied Berserker can shift his minus to hit from Power Attack to his AC instead with Combat Brute the answer is yes. that's shock trooper/heedless charge, not combat brute/momentum swing.