Full Speed while hiding/moving silently [Archive] - Wizards Community

Full Speed while hiding/moving silently [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
cato
05-18-07, 11:01 PM Some sort of class feature/feat that does that, think I had stumbled upon one but cant seem to find it..
StevenO
05-18-07, 11:23 PM I believe the Thief-Acrobat (Complete Adventurer) gets to ignore the usual penalties. There may be others.
Lotus Crane
05-18-07, 11:39 PM I believe the Thief-Acrobat (Complete Adventurer) gets to ignore the usual penalties.
That's for Balance, Tumble, and the like. Not Hide and Move Silently, IIRC.

cato: You may be thinking of the regional feat Swift and Silent, from the Player's Guide to Faerun, page 45.
Cala, Legend Reborn
05-19-07, 03:16 AM The 5th-level stance, "Step of the Dancing Moth" of the Shadow Hand discipline in Tome of Battle removes the Hide/Move Silently penalty for moving quickly.
cato
05-19-07, 03:41 AM The 5th-level stance, "Step of the Dancing Moth" of the Shadow Hand discipline in Tome of Battle removes the Hide/Move Silently penalty for moving quickly.

hahahahahahah, I can see myself making a chinese dub face and uttering :Step of the Dancing Moth" in Dub :rant:
Bob Loblaw
05-19-07, 09:54 AM There's the Skulk in Races of Destiny. It has an LA +1 and 2 racial hit dice (ECL 3).

It can move at full speed (including run) while hiding with no penalties to the check. To make it better, the skulk starts with a +15 racial bonus on Hide checks. He gets +8 to his Move Silently checks. If you get enough bonuses, you can overcome the -5 penalty to move up to your speed. With a little work, you can overcome the -20 penalty to run or charge while moving silently.

You'd also get a +4 bonus to Dex, so you'd get +2 more to Hide and Move Silently. You would have at least 10 skill points to divide between your only two class skills for your racial hit dice. This would give you +22 Hide and +15 Move Silently before you take your first level in rogue (or whatever class you wanted).
Shadowfax7
05-19-07, 10:19 AM I use a variant spell-less Ranger that gains Sylvan Grace at 10th level that I have previously posted on these boards.

Sylvan Grace is from EQ RPG and reduces the penalties to Hide and MS in natural terrain.

Sylvan Grace (Ex): The Ranger suffers no penalty for moving at up to her normal speed while using the Hide or Move Silently skills, and suffers only a –10 penalty for doing so while attacking, running or charging. This ability applies in any sort of natural terrain and only when wearing light or no armor.
Alvoros Darkleaf
05-19-07, 11:21 AM Some sort of class feature/feat that does that, think I had stumbled upon one but cant seem to find it..

The "Dread Commando" (Heroes of Battle), gets "Stealthy Movement" at 4th level, which allows full movement with no penalty to hide/move silently, and -10 while running/charging.

Other class features also let's you reduce Armor Check penalty up to 4 points, so you can use Mithral Full Plate at later levels with no check penalty.

Playing a Rogue 10/Dread Commando 3 right now....great scout/ambusher.

Alvo

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
cato 05-18-07, 11:01 PM	Some sort of class feature/feat that does that, think I had stumbled upon one but cant seem to find it..
StevenO 05-18-07, 11:23 PM	I believe the Thief-Acrobat (Complete Adventurer) gets to ignore the usual penalties. There may be others.
Lotus Crane 05-18-07, 11:39 PM	I believe the Thief-Acrobat (Complete Adventurer) gets to ignore the usual penalties. That's for Balance, Tumble, and the like. Not Hide and Move Silently, IIRC. cato: You may be thinking of the regional feat Swift and Silent, from the Player's Guide to Faerun, page 45.
Cala, Legend Reborn 05-19-07, 03:16 AM	The 5th-level stance, "Step of the Dancing Moth" of the Shadow Hand discipline in Tome of Battle removes the Hide/Move Silently penalty for moving quickly.
cato 05-19-07, 03:41 AM	The 5th-level stance, "Step of the Dancing Moth" of the Shadow Hand discipline in Tome of Battle removes the Hide/Move Silently penalty for moving quickly. hahahahahahah, I can see myself making a chinese dub face and uttering :Step of the Dancing Moth" in Dub :rant:
Bob Loblaw 05-19-07, 09:54 AM	There's the Skulk in Races of Destiny. It has an LA +1 and 2 racial hit dice (ECL 3). It can move at full speed (including run) while hiding with no penalties to the check. To make it better, the skulk starts with a +15 racial bonus on Hide checks. He gets +8 to his Move Silently checks. If you get enough bonuses, you can overcome the -5 penalty to move up to your speed. With a little work, you can overcome the -20 penalty to run or charge while moving silently. You'd also get a +4 bonus to Dex, so you'd get +2 more to Hide and Move Silently. You would have at least 10 skill points to divide between your only two class skills for your racial hit dice. This would give you +22 Hide and +15 Move Silently before you take your first level in rogue (or whatever class you wanted).
Shadowfax7 05-19-07, 10:19 AM	I use a variant spell-less Ranger that gains Sylvan Grace at 10th level that I have previously posted on these boards. Sylvan Grace is from EQ RPG and reduces the penalties to Hide and MS in natural terrain. Sylvan Grace (Ex): The Ranger suffers no penalty for moving at up to her normal speed while using the Hide or Move Silently skills, and suffers only a –10 penalty for doing so while attacking, running or charging. This ability applies in any sort of natural terrain and only when wearing light or no armor.
Alvoros Darkleaf 05-19-07, 11:21 AM	Some sort of class feature/feat that does that, think I had stumbled upon one but cant seem to find it.. The "Dread Commando" (Heroes of Battle), gets "Stealthy Movement" at 4th level, which allows full movement with no penalty to hide/move silently, and -10 while running/charging. Other class features also let's you reduce Armor Check penalty up to 4 points, so you can use Mithral Full Plate at later levels with no check penalty. Playing a Rogue 10/Dread Commando 3 right now....great scout/ambusher. Alvo