Handle Animal/Wild Empathy Question [Archive] - Wizards Community

Handle Animal/Wild Empathy Question [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
ajb47
03-16-07, 02:19 PM Can either the skill or the ability be used to make an opponents horse rear and throw the rider?

AJ
jadehawk
03-16-07, 03:30 PM This sounds like a great idea, but tough to pull off. The problem I see is that unless the creature is trained to buck from a visual or oral cue (like a command word) you would need interaction to get it to buck. If you were on the creature, you could use handle animal to perhaps buck you off (coaxing him by clenching your legs behind its), or perhaps if you were within reach you could make him buck with a successful touch attack and subsequent handle animal check.

Otherwise I could see you using your Wild Empathy to gain the creature's friendship (which usually takes a minute btw), and then perhaps "speak with animal" spell to communicate your request. That should do it. Instead of Wild Empathy you could use the Animal Friendship spell as well.
Ovistavin
03-16-07, 06:47 PM Animal Friendship is a 3.0 spell and doesn't exist in 3.5. Just wanted to point that out to avoid confusion.
Slimgauge
03-16-07, 06:52 PM Only thing I can think of is the Paladin's mount's "command others of like type" ability.
ajb47
03-16-07, 07:18 PM Thanks for the replies.

What I have is one Mongolian-type Ranger/Shaaryan Hunter who wants to kill on of my PC's and I had been wondering if there was a way for my villain to gain an upper hand by forcing the PC to dismount.

AJ
Arem_K
03-16-07, 09:22 PM By RAW, if the animal has been trained to attack (and if the mount has been trained in combat riding it has) it is just a DC 10 check to get the animal to attack. Telling the horse to attack its rider would probably resort in him being bucked off. It is kinda stupid though.
Trevhippy
03-17-07, 08:17 AM You could give him a Tiarra of Animal Domination. Guess it doesn't have to be a tiarra, but a tiarra is a more amusing mental picture for me.

--Trev
HellflameArcanite
03-17-07, 11:03 AM This sounds like a great idea, but tough to pull off. The problem I see is that unless the creature is trained to buck from a visual or oral cue (like a command word) you would need interaction to get it to buck.

Perhaps if you sold somebody a horse trained to do so at a command word, when you met that person in battle you could command that horse to buck. It's a stretch, but it would be a good plan for an evil villain's sabotage.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
ajb47 03-16-07, 02:19 PM	Can either the skill or the ability be used to make an opponents horse rear and throw the rider? AJ
jadehawk 03-16-07, 03:30 PM	This sounds like a great idea, but tough to pull off. The problem I see is that unless the creature is trained to buck from a visual or oral cue (like a command word) you would need interaction to get it to buck. If you were on the creature, you could use handle animal to perhaps buck you off (coaxing him by clenching your legs behind its), or perhaps if you were within reach you could make him buck with a successful touch attack and subsequent handle animal check. Otherwise I could see you using your Wild Empathy to gain the creature's friendship (which usually takes a minute btw), and then perhaps "speak with animal" spell to communicate your request. That should do it. Instead of Wild Empathy you could use the Animal Friendship spell as well.
Ovistavin 03-16-07, 06:47 PM	Animal Friendship is a 3.0 spell and doesn't exist in 3.5. Just wanted to point that out to avoid confusion.
Slimgauge 03-16-07, 06:52 PM	Only thing I can think of is the Paladin's mount's "command others of like type" ability.
ajb47 03-16-07, 07:18 PM	Thanks for the replies. What I have is one Mongolian-type Ranger/Shaaryan Hunter who wants to kill on of my PC's and I had been wondering if there was a way for my villain to gain an upper hand by forcing the PC to dismount. AJ
Arem_K 03-16-07, 09:22 PM	By RAW, if the animal has been trained to attack (and if the mount has been trained in combat riding it has) it is just a DC 10 check to get the animal to attack. Telling the horse to attack its rider would probably resort in him being bucked off. It is kinda stupid though.
Trevhippy 03-17-07, 08:17 AM	You could give him a Tiarra of Animal Domination. Guess it doesn't have to be a tiarra, but a tiarra is a more amusing mental picture for me. --Trev
HellflameArcanite 03-17-07, 11:03 AM	This sounds like a great idea, but tough to pull off. The problem I see is that unless the creature is trained to buck from a visual or oral cue (like a command word) you would need interaction to get it to buck. Perhaps if you sold somebody a horse trained to do so at a command word, when you met that person in battle you could command that horse to buck. It's a stretch, but it would be a good plan for an evil villain's sabotage.