Hide check w/ concealment [Archive] - Wizards Community

Hide check w/ concealment [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Bra'k'aern
08-24-07, 05:39 PM Can a character make a hide check if they are observed, but have concealment?
Dheran
08-25-07, 10:25 AM Only with Hide in Plain Sight.
Tsuul
08-25-07, 01:36 PM ditto
1 ton ghost
08-25-07, 02:12 PM no, you gotta' Bluff first then make it to/or be in concealment.
there's some loopholes here though.

for ex)heavy fog and you're adjacent, but still it's 20% concealment. if you were to take a 5ft. step away deeper into the fog, technically they can't "see you" or "observe you" as Spot is dependent on adjacent enemy...in fog anyway. from there it's a simple matter of Move Silent & Hide w/ periodic Listen checks to get his position while you skulk about in the fog.
sparkster4242
09-03-07, 09:25 PM actually, it depends. if you have _total_ concealment, then you probably dont need to hide at all, because the other guy cant see you anyway - but you do get a +40 bonus to the check anyway if you are not moving, or +20 if you do move.
with less than total concealment, you would need to distract your opponent, or otherwise keep him from observing you as you attempt to hide.
see the Hide skill description, PHB 3.5, p. 76 for these and other details.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Bra'k'aern 08-24-07, 05:39 PM	Can a character make a hide check if they are observed, but have concealment?
Dheran 08-25-07, 10:25 AM	Only with Hide in Plain Sight.
Tsuul 08-25-07, 01:36 PM	ditto
1 ton ghost 08-25-07, 02:12 PM	no, you gotta' Bluff first then make it to/or be in concealment. there's some loopholes here though. for ex)heavy fog and you're adjacent, but still it's 20% concealment. if you were to take a 5ft. step away deeper into the fog, technically they can't "see you" or "observe you" as Spot is dependent on adjacent enemy...in fog anyway. from there it's a simple matter of Move Silent & Hide w/ periodic Listen checks to get his position while you skulk about in the fog.
sparkster4242 09-03-07, 09:25 PM	actually, it depends. if you have _total_ concealment, then you probably dont need to hide at all, because the other guy cant see you anyway - but you do get a +40 bonus to the check anyway if you are not moving, or +20 if you do move. with less than total concealment, you would need to distract your opponent, or otherwise keep him from observing you as you attempt to hide. see the Hide skill description, PHB 3.5, p. 76 for these and other details.