Improved Exsotic Weapon Prof. [Archive] - Wizards Community

Improved Exsotic Weapon Prof. [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Spikes01k
01-17-08, 04:03 PM Improved Exotic Weapon Proficiency:
Req: Proficiency in original weapon type.
Bonus: Chose one martial or simple weapon, with the exception of great sword. You may now wield that specific weapon made for a creature one size larger. You can not chose an already exotic weapon or the great sword with this feat.
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Seeing as a lot of weapons are already the same as a non exotic weapon but one size larger. This is of course excluding the great sword with one exception.
Bahumut
01-17-08, 05:11 PM Monkey Grip says what?

not a bad feat, but it feels like a weak form of Powerful Build, while it steps on Monkey Grips toes.
AtsuiShoto
01-17-08, 05:24 PM I'm not sure why everyone mentions Powerful Build when wielding larger weapons is posited in any context. Powerful Build is good for all size-related opposed checks, not just for larger weapons.

That said, this feat overlaps Monkey Grip a bit too much. This is similar to a weapon focus of sorts, and in fact could be made as a branch of the Weapon Focus feat tree. Perhaps grant an extra damage die, sized to be appropriate for how far up the feat tree it is. Usually, getting a larger weapon is used to bump 2d6 to 3d6, or 3d6 to 4d6, so an extra 1d6 wouldn't be out of order.
Spikes01k
01-18-08, 03:53 PM I'm not sure why everyone mentions Powerful Build when wielding larger weapons is posited in any context. Powerful Build is good for all size-related opposed checks, not just for larger weapons.

That said, this feat overlaps Monkey Grip a bit too much. This is similar to a weapon focus of sorts, and in fact could be made as a branch of the Weapon Focus feat tree. Perhaps grant an extra damage die, sized to be appropriate for how far up the feat tree it is. Usually, getting a larger weapon is used to bump 2d6 to 3d6, or 3d6 to 4d6, so an extra 1d6 wouldn't be out of order.

Monkey grip is way too weak. mathematical wise it is a lesser form of power attack except if you have a bastard sword. Exotic weapon proficiency is also been said to not be worth the feat so I thought about basically killing two birds with one stone here. I didn't allow great sword because in my experience any weapon that does more than 2D6 damage gets gimped all the way, and maybe there is a reason for it.
dman11235
01-18-08, 05:00 PM Aslo, larger sizes benifit from monkey grip more than smaller ones. A jump of 2d6 damage (4d6 to 6d6) is better than +4 damage from -2 on pw attack with a 2-hander.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Spikes01k 01-17-08, 04:03 PM	Improved Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Req: Proficiency in original weapon type. Bonus: Chose one martial or simple weapon, with the exception of great sword. You may now wield that specific weapon made for a creature one size larger. You can not chose an already exotic weapon or the great sword with this feat. ____________________ Seeing as a lot of weapons are already the same as a non exotic weapon but one size larger. This is of course excluding the great sword with one exception.
Bahumut 01-17-08, 05:11 PM	Monkey Grip says what? not a bad feat, but it feels like a weak form of Powerful Build, while it steps on Monkey Grips toes.
AtsuiShoto 01-17-08, 05:24 PM	I'm not sure why everyone mentions Powerful Build when wielding larger weapons is posited in any context. Powerful Build is good for all size-related opposed checks, not just for larger weapons. That said, this feat overlaps Monkey Grip a bit too much. This is similar to a weapon focus of sorts, and in fact could be made as a branch of the Weapon Focus feat tree. Perhaps grant an extra damage die, sized to be appropriate for how far up the feat tree it is. Usually, getting a larger weapon is used to bump 2d6 to 3d6, or 3d6 to 4d6, so an extra 1d6 wouldn't be out of order.
Spikes01k 01-18-08, 03:53 PM	I'm not sure why everyone mentions Powerful Build when wielding larger weapons is posited in any context. Powerful Build is good for all size-related opposed checks, not just for larger weapons. That said, this feat overlaps Monkey Grip a bit too much. This is similar to a weapon focus of sorts, and in fact could be made as a branch of the Weapon Focus feat tree. Perhaps grant an extra damage die, sized to be appropriate for how far up the feat tree it is. Usually, getting a larger weapon is used to bump 2d6 to 3d6, or 3d6 to 4d6, so an extra 1d6 wouldn't be out of order. Monkey grip is way too weak. mathematical wise it is a lesser form of power attack except if you have a bastard sword. Exotic weapon proficiency is also been said to not be worth the feat so I thought about basically killing two birds with one stone here. I didn't allow great sword because in my experience any weapon that does more than 2D6 damage gets gimped all the way, and maybe there is a reason for it.
dman11235 01-18-08, 05:00 PM	Aslo, larger sizes benifit from monkey grip more than smaller ones. A jump of 2d6 damage (4d6 to 6d6) is better than +4 damage from -2 on pw attack with a 2-hander.