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nymdespana

09-05-07, 01:06 PM
Sorry if the answer to my question is still somewhere in this huge amount of material, but I didn't find it.
I read many posts about Improved Familiar feat, with many suggestions, but I didn't find a general and official "rule".
What I mean is this:
if you want an Imp you must be 7th level
if you want an Ice Mephit you must be 7th level
BUT
Imp has CR 3 while Ice Mephit has CR 3...

So... is there any core/non core rule about Improved Familiars you can have and at which level (for example the creature must have CR = your level - X) ??

Thank in advance guys!!

Nym Despana
tarkin

09-05-07, 03:36 PM
First of all, neither CR nor HD are good choices for that issue.

Neither deal with multiple use special abilities well.

That is why ECL was created, because a creature with a 1/day ability has the same CR as a creature with a 1/hour ability, but the 1/hour ability is MUCH more powerfull for a Player, who is going to last for more than 10 minutes after meeting the Party.


If I were going to do something like that, I would need ECl, because what you are doing is using the creature as a constant companion.

But usually creatures appropriate for a familiar do not have an ECL.

End result: I don't think any formula is possible. There is too much differentiation between say a Ravid (3hd, 5CR creature with 1/round Animate Object) and say an Adult Arrowhawk (7hd, 5CR creature whose special ability is an electrical touch attack for 2d8 1/round)
nymdespana

09-06-07, 08:48 AM
I read somewhere such a thing:
"maximum level (ECL) of familiar = master's level - 2"

Then, I read something similar about cohort (maximum limit).

But... my question is:
"is there any general core rule in DM or somewhere else, about which cratures you can take and at which level?"

I don't think so, but my huge ignorance about rules makes me asking to you, wiser people.

tnx again

Nym