Improved Rapid Reload [Archive] - Wizards Community

Improved Rapid Reload [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Garonak
04-07-07, 07:36 AM New Feat:

Improved Rapid Reload
Requirements: Rapid Reload, BA+6, Dex 15
Reload heavy (or similar crossbows) as a free action.
Normal: It takes a move action to reload a heavy crossbow with the Rapid Reload Feat

Is this balanced?
IonizedChicken
04-07-07, 07:49 AM Yes, it is balanced.
I'm not sure in what situation I would pick it, but it does seem balanced.

I wouldn't take my own word for it, though. :P
Cartigan
04-07-07, 09:21 AM Dex 15? Might want Str 15? I don't care if you are the most dexterous person in the world, you arn't loading any crossbow, much less a heavy one, as a free action if you have 8 Str.
IonizedChicken
04-07-07, 09:36 AM You also shouldn't be able to wield a Greatsword with Str 8. Big deal.
Cartigan
04-07-07, 10:01 AM You also shouldn't be able to wield a Greatsword with Str 8. Big deal.

Well that's not a feat with an ability pre-req is it?
Tichondrus
04-07-07, 10:03 AM I'd take the Dex requirement and change de BAB to +13
But that's just me again
IonizedChicken
04-07-07, 10:10 AM Well that's not a feat with an ability pre-req is it?

No, it's not, but if you're concerned about the ability of characters to reload heavy weapons without a high Strength score, you should be concerned about the ability of those characters to wield unnaturally large and heavy swords.

The point is that if you had a high Strength score you would use a composite bow, not a crossbow. You'd have very little reason to pick this feat. Even less so than now.
Cartigan
04-07-07, 12:18 PM I guess that makes sense then so I withdraw my contention.
Jaxgaret
04-07-07, 04:14 PM Why exactly is there a Dex requirement? Just wondering about your thinking behind it, as Rapid Reload has no ability requirement.

Also, add this line into the Benefit section of the feat for clarity (heck, add a Benefit section for clarity too):

"You may fire a Heavy Crossbow as many times in a full attack action as you could attack if you were using a bow."

Having said that, it seems balanced to me.
Garonak
04-07-07, 05:20 PM Dex is most for flavour, characters going for a crossbow build will probaly have a high dex anyways.
Just had the idea that one would have to be quite fast to manage to reload a crossbow that fast.
Cartigan
04-07-07, 06:14 PM Crossbows have much more tension than a regular bow. But sense the game gives all ranged weapons Dex bonuses, might as well stick to Dex. But then again, that's what MMOs have done and broke the class.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Garonak 04-07-07, 07:36 AM	New Feat: Improved Rapid Reload Requirements: Rapid Reload, BA+6, Dex 15 Reload heavy (or similar crossbows) as a free action. Normal: It takes a move action to reload a heavy crossbow with the Rapid Reload Feat Is this balanced?
IonizedChicken 04-07-07, 07:49 AM	Yes, it is balanced. I'm not sure in what situation I would pick it, but it does seem balanced. I wouldn't take my own word for it, though. :P
Cartigan 04-07-07, 09:21 AM	Dex 15? Might want Str 15? I don't care if you are the most dexterous person in the world, you arn't loading any crossbow, much less a heavy one, as a free action if you have 8 Str.
IonizedChicken 04-07-07, 09:36 AM	You also shouldn't be able to wield a Greatsword with Str 8. Big deal.
Cartigan 04-07-07, 10:01 AM	You also shouldn't be able to wield a Greatsword with Str 8. Big deal. Well that's not a feat with an ability pre-req is it?
Tichondrus 04-07-07, 10:03 AM	I'd take the Dex requirement and change de BAB to +13 But that's just me again
IonizedChicken 04-07-07, 10:10 AM	Well that's not a feat with an ability pre-req is it? No, it's not, but if you're concerned about the ability of characters to reload heavy weapons without a high Strength score, you should be concerned about the ability of those characters to wield unnaturally large and heavy swords. The point is that if you had a high Strength score you would use a composite bow, not a crossbow. You'd have very little reason to pick this feat. Even less so than now.
Cartigan 04-07-07, 12:18 PM	I guess that makes sense then so I withdraw my contention.
Jaxgaret 04-07-07, 04:14 PM	Why exactly is there a Dex requirement? Just wondering about your thinking behind it, as Rapid Reload has no ability requirement. Also, add this line into the Benefit section of the feat for clarity (heck, add a Benefit section for clarity too): "You may fire a Heavy Crossbow as many times in a full attack action as you could attack if you were using a bow." Having said that, it seems balanced to me.
Garonak 04-07-07, 05:20 PM	Dex is most for flavour, characters going for a crossbow build will probaly have a high dex anyways. Just had the idea that one would have to be quite fast to manage to reload a crossbow that fast.
Cartigan 04-07-07, 06:14 PM	Crossbows have much more tension than a regular bow. But sense the game gives all ranged weapons Dex bonuses, might as well stick to Dex. But then again, that's what MMOs have done and broke the class.