Int as Con? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Int as Con? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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shogunboy
03-17-07, 10:14 PM I saw a feat for mages that can use Int modifier to determine hp instead of Con. I seen it from Dragon 319, but I seen another one similar to this called Mine over Body. If this exist, which book would it be in?
inspectr88
03-17-07, 10:21 PM I think there's a feat that lets you use Int instead of Con for HP, only at first level, though.

I'm also basing this off of NWN2.
Grod_The_Giant
03-17-07, 10:27 PM If such a feat existed, Wizards would get a *huge* advantage. Think about it.
runestar
03-17-07, 10:38 PM The mind over body regional feat from PGTF does let you use your cha or int mod to determine your bonus hp instead of con at 1st lv only.
It also grants a few other minor benefits, such as +1 insight AC and +1hp/metamagic feat.:)
Kursk
03-17-07, 11:42 PM I saw a feat for mages that can use Int modifier to determine hp instead of Con. I seen it from Dragon 319, but I seen another one similar to this called Mine over Body. If this exist, which book would it be in?

It's right next to the one that lets fighters use Str instead of Int to determine skill point bonuses.
Feroz
03-17-07, 11:50 PM It's right next to the one that lets fighters use Str instead of Int to determine skill point bonuses.

Which, as it is, isn't all that bad. <.< Fighters get jack as it is, a few more skill points to spend on their incredibly limited skill selection is nowhere near as potent as letting a mage base their HP off their casting stat. Or their casting stat off of con, for that matter, 3.0 kineticists, anyone?
maskimus
03-18-07, 01:41 PM How about everybody gets additional skill point for every atribute, but the points can only be applied to skills that use that atribute. eg. Str- Climb, Jump, Swim; Dex- Hide, Move Silently, Use Rope...
Lia Nightdemon
03-21-07, 07:23 PM my DM let me use the feat Mind over body (FR 3.0 verison) and he misread it to having it work every level. SO I had lots of hp as a psion shaper :)
kelvinaw273
03-21-07, 09:04 PM I have to say that a feat allowing characters with high wisdom to use it for their skills at level one would not be an unreasonable advantage.
Optimator
03-22-07, 04:59 AM The only thing like that is probably the undead cha->hp thingy.
Kursk
03-22-07, 05:07 PM If such a feat existed, Wizards would get a *huge* advantage. Think about it.

But you counter it by using the Str as Int Feat for fighters... :D
Neutronium_Dragon
03-22-07, 05:43 PM Using your Int as a modifier at 1st level only is, at 1st level, equal to or a little better than Toughness. Toughness, regarded as one of the weakest feats out there, and you're only doing as well or slightly better than it.

Even with the increase of Int mod at higher levels, you're still likely to be behind what Improved Toughness would have given you at that level.

It's hardly an overpowering benefit.
kelvinaw273
03-22-07, 07:56 PM But you counter it by using the Str as Int Feat for fighters... :D

Mind Over Body has some rationale to it. Where does the rationale for Str as Int for skills come from?

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
shogunboy 03-17-07, 10:14 PM	I saw a feat for mages that can use Int modifier to determine hp instead of Con. I seen it from Dragon 319, but I seen another one similar to this called Mine over Body. If this exist, which book would it be in?
inspectr88 03-17-07, 10:21 PM	I think there's a feat that lets you use Int instead of Con for HP, only at first level, though. I'm also basing this off of NWN2.
Grod_The_Giant 03-17-07, 10:27 PM	If such a feat existed, Wizards would get a huge advantage. Think about it.
runestar 03-17-07, 10:38 PM	The mind over body regional feat from PGTF does let you use your cha or int mod to determine your bonus hp instead of con at 1st lv only. It also grants a few other minor benefits, such as +1 insight AC and +1hp/metamagic feat.:)
Kursk 03-17-07, 11:42 PM	I saw a feat for mages that can use Int modifier to determine hp instead of Con. I seen it from Dragon 319, but I seen another one similar to this called Mine over Body. If this exist, which book would it be in? It's right next to the one that lets fighters use Str instead of Int to determine skill point bonuses.
Feroz 03-17-07, 11:50 PM	It's right next to the one that lets fighters use Str instead of Int to determine skill point bonuses. Which, as it is, isn't all that bad. <.< Fighters get jack as it is, a few more skill points to spend on their incredibly limited skill selection is nowhere near as potent as letting a mage base their HP off their casting stat. Or their casting stat off of con, for that matter, 3.0 kineticists, anyone?
maskimus 03-18-07, 01:41 PM	How about everybody gets additional skill point for every atribute, but the points can only be applied to skills that use that atribute. eg. Str- Climb, Jump, Swim; Dex- Hide, Move Silently, Use Rope...
Lia Nightdemon 03-21-07, 07:23 PM	my DM let me use the feat Mind over body (FR 3.0 verison) and he misread it to having it work every level. SO I had lots of hp as a psion shaper :)
kelvinaw273 03-21-07, 09:04 PM	I have to say that a feat allowing characters with high wisdom to use it for their skills at level one would not be an unreasonable advantage.
Optimator 03-22-07, 04:59 AM	The only thing like that is probably the undead cha->hp thingy.
Kursk 03-22-07, 05:07 PM	If such a feat existed, Wizards would get a huge advantage. Think about it. But you counter it by using the Str as Int Feat for fighters... :D
Neutronium_Dragon 03-22-07, 05:43 PM	Using your Int as a modifier at 1st level only is, at 1st level, equal to or a little better than Toughness. Toughness, regarded as one of the weakest feats out there, and you're only doing as well or slightly better than it. Even with the increase of Int mod at higher levels, you're still likely to be behind what Improved Toughness would have given you at that level. It's hardly an overpowering benefit.
kelvinaw273 03-22-07, 07:56 PM	But you counter it by using the Str as Int Feat for fighters... :D Mind Over Body has some rationale to it. Where does the rationale for Str as Int for skills come from?