Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Candin 05-06-07, 03:58 PM	Say at fourth level you place your ability point in intelligence and bring it from 15 to 16. You now get an additional skill point per level. But is this retroactive? Will you get the additional skill point from 1st, second, and third level, or is it from that point onward?
jokey665 05-06-07, 04:14 PM	Skill points are not retroactive.
ShinAkuma2 05-06-07, 04:22 PM	Becoming smarter now doesn't have any bearing on how well you learned last month.
Drachasor 05-06-07, 04:35 PM	Becoming smarter now doesn't have any bearing on how well you learned last month. Though honestly....it would This is only represented in D&D by your int skills getting the +1 boost from your higher int modifier. The new skill system in the Star Wars SAGA system (pretty much d20) only has your trained or not trained in skills. If your modifier increases, then you become trained in one more skill. (They changed a lot of other stuff too). In that you get a +1/2 character level bonus on all skill checks, a +5 bonus on a skill you are trained in, and skill focus (only on trained skills) gives you another +5 bonus. -Drachasor
Nom 05-06-07, 07:33 PM	No. PH pg 10. No change to skills is retroactive at that scale. Skill points are fixed once spent. HP are actually calculated instantaneously (like skill mods), but it's not obvious to look at it. The only "retroactive" effect is what happens to prepared bonus spells when your Int (or equivalent) mod drops, and the exact effect is not entirely clear from the rules.
runestar 05-06-07, 10:21 PM	Though honestly....it would This is only represented in D&D by your int skills getting the +1 boost from your higher int modifier. That would probably reflect you being able to better apply the knowledge you have learnt due to your smarter intellect, not you suddenly "knowing" more.:P
aelryinth 05-06-07, 10:51 PM	The correct answer is no. The faster and cleaner answer is just to say "Sure, go ahead and do it, but you can only put the extra skill points into skills you already have." Then, this simply represents a refinement of skills already known then conjuring knowledge out of thin air. Also, it becomes much less a PITA when calculating skill points for monsters and PC's who put their level raises into Int. ===Aelryinth
strenoth 05-07-07, 09:57 AM	I let permanent increases to INT work retroactively (which basically means level-based, Inhernent bonuses, and if you acquire a template). Magic items etc, never alter your skill points.
tarkin 05-07-07, 12:24 PM	That would be house ruling. And wierd to suddenly gain a ton of skills. I could see letting them gain them only in Languages and Knowledge skills (being int based). But do you really let someone that gets smarter suddenly become better at Tumbling, Climbing, Riding, etc.
retillin 05-07-07, 01:05 PM	I house rule it too. Yes it doesnt really make that much sense. However, we like to keep things clean. So anytime you raise any ability (such as con) it is all retro. In no way shape or form have I seen this really alter a campain. So, by the rules no. But give it a try, if it doesnt work dont do it again.
CantripN 05-07-07, 01:23 PM	I'm told Dragons get to do it, though, to save the DM some work thinking of their growth stages... Players don't get that privilage.
Drachasor 05-07-07, 01:45 PM	I think it can make sense. Your increased intelligence could make you better at a lot of skills. Particular skills you already had ranks in, as your greater intelligence gives you new insight (or with skills that can be used untrained). That said, by RAW it doesn't work. -Drachasor
Vegepygmy 05-07-07, 02:30 PM	I think it can make sense. Your increased intelligence could make you better at a lot of skills.Oh, it does...for all those skills that are based on Intelligence. It just doesn't increase your rank, which represents more than just "insight."