is it possible to learn a stance with a non martial class [Archive] - Wizards Community

is it possible to learn a stance with a non martial class [Archive] - Wizards Community

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DarkflameX
05-10-07, 10:30 PM i was checking out the ToB my friend had and i saw the shadow blade feat that allows to add dex to damage. however the prerequisite was to know one of the shadow hand abilities. is it possible to learn, just to get shadow blade.
exclude multiclassing
Xaxor
05-10-07, 10:46 PM Yeah, that's what Martial Stance and Martial Maneuver are for. Just remember that non-martial adept classes count as 1/2 for initiator level.
Tempest Stormwind
05-10-07, 10:54 PM i was checking out the ToB my friend had and i saw the shadow blade feat that allows to add dex to damage. however the prerequisite was to know one of the shadow hand abilities. is it possible to learn, just to get shadow blade.
exclude multiclassing

Way to read the chapter you were looking at, friend.

Martial Stance.

In order to do it, though, you'd need three feats:
Martial Study (Shadow Hand) - gain Hide as a class skill, learn a Shadow Hand maneuver that you meet the IL and maneuver prerequisites for; can use this maneuver once per encounter.
Martial Stance (Shadow Hand) - Learn any one stance you qualify for from Shadow Hand.
Shadow Blade.

Do note that you have an IL of 1/2 your HD (that is, if you're a 6th level monk, according to table 3-1, you can learn maneuvers as a 3rd level martial adept, thus 2nd level maneuvers), and you must meet maneuver requirements as well.

This prevents you from cherrypicking the best maneuvers and stances in general. It's honestly easier, most of the time, to take two levels in Swordsage (I'd suggest 1, but 2 would let you get stances above 1st level, including Assassin's Stance). This gets you more maneuvers, a lot of skills, Wisdom-to-AC, and a recovery system for your maneuvers.
DarkflameX
05-10-07, 11:30 PM Way to read the chapter you were looking at, friend.

Martial Stance.

In order to do it, though, you'd need three feats:
Martial Study (Shadow Hand) - gain Hide as a class skill, learn a Shadow Hand maneuver that you meet the IL and maneuver prerequisites for; can use this maneuver once per encounter.
Martial Stance (Shadow Hand) - Learn any one stance you qualify for from Shadow Hand.
Shadow Blade.

Do note that you have an IL of 1/2 your HD (that is, if you're a 6th level monk, according to table 3-1, you can learn maneuvers as a 3rd level martial adept, thus 2nd level maneuvers), and you must meet maneuver requirements as well.

This prevents you from cherrypicking the best maneuvers and stances in general. It's honestly easier, most of the time, to take two levels in Swordsage (I'd suggest 1, but 2 would let you get stances above 1st level, including Assassin's Stance). This gets you more maneuvers, a lot of skills, Wisdom-to-AC, and a recovery system for your maneuvers.

yea i didnt get to read much of it, thats why i was asking on here.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
DarkflameX 05-10-07, 10:30 PM	i was checking out the ToB my friend had and i saw the shadow blade feat that allows to add dex to damage. however the prerequisite was to know one of the shadow hand abilities. is it possible to learn, just to get shadow blade. exclude multiclassing
Xaxor 05-10-07, 10:46 PM	Yeah, that's what Martial Stance and Martial Maneuver are for. Just remember that non-martial adept classes count as 1/2 for initiator level.
Tempest Stormwind 05-10-07, 10:54 PM	i was checking out the ToB my friend had and i saw the shadow blade feat that allows to add dex to damage. however the prerequisite was to know one of the shadow hand abilities. is it possible to learn, just to get shadow blade. exclude multiclassing Way to read the chapter you were looking at, friend. Martial Stance. In order to do it, though, you'd need three feats: Martial Study (Shadow Hand) - gain Hide as a class skill, learn a Shadow Hand maneuver that you meet the IL and maneuver prerequisites for; can use this maneuver once per encounter. Martial Stance (Shadow Hand) - Learn any one stance you qualify for from Shadow Hand. Shadow Blade. Do note that you have an IL of 1/2 your HD (that is, if you're a 6th level monk, according to table 3-1, you can learn maneuvers as a 3rd level martial adept, thus 2nd level maneuvers), and you must meet maneuver requirements as well. This prevents you from cherrypicking the best maneuvers and stances in general. It's honestly easier, most of the time, to take two levels in Swordsage (I'd suggest 1, but 2 would let you get stances above 1st level, including Assassin's Stance). This gets you more maneuvers, a lot of skills, Wisdom-to-AC, and a recovery system for your maneuvers.
DarkflameX 05-10-07, 11:30 PM	Way to read the chapter you were looking at, friend. Martial Stance. In order to do it, though, you'd need three feats: Martial Study (Shadow Hand) - gain Hide as a class skill, learn a Shadow Hand maneuver that you meet the IL and maneuver prerequisites for; can use this maneuver once per encounter. Martial Stance (Shadow Hand) - Learn any one stance you qualify for from Shadow Hand. Shadow Blade. Do note that you have an IL of 1/2 your HD (that is, if you're a 6th level monk, according to table 3-1, you can learn maneuvers as a 3rd level martial adept, thus 2nd level maneuvers), and you must meet maneuver requirements as well. This prevents you from cherrypicking the best maneuvers and stances in general. It's honestly easier, most of the time, to take two levels in Swordsage (I'd suggest 1, but 2 would let you get stances above 1st level, including Assassin's Stance). This gets you more maneuvers, a lot of skills, Wisdom-to-AC, and a recovery system for your maneuvers. yea i didnt get to read much of it, thats why i was asking on here.