Knockback vs. Awesome Blow [Archive] - Wizards Community

Knockback vs. Awesome Blow [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Malvoi
07-30-07, 10:02 PM Both feats do the same thing thematically although AB seems weaker in that it limits your opponent's movement to 10' (and 1d6 damage) while Knock. is limited by how much your roll exceeds your opponent's roll (and thus giving the potential for more damage even though the feat does not state that your opponent takes damage from being pushed back into something).

Thoughts or personal experience with either/both?

Thanks. :tiphat:
runestar
07-30-07, 10:34 PM They seem like they might complement each other. Awesome blow will force the opponent to provoke an AoO when he gets pushed out of a square you threaten, and you can then follow up on that AoO with knockback...:D

So Awesome blow has the potential do deal more damage (since you deal damage with knockback and the free AoO), but Knockback tends to yield better results.:)
Malvoi
07-30-07, 11:03 PM They seem like they might complement each other. Awesome blow will force the opponent to provoke an AoO when he gets pushed out of a square you threaten, and you can then follow up on that AoO with knockback...:D

So Awesome blow has the potential do deal more damage (since you deal damage with knockback and the free AoO), but Knockback tends to yield better results.:)

Mmmm....wow, good point! If it does work that way then...:plotting:
Massive smackdowns incoming! :evillaugh:

Woohoo! :dancin:
sijigs
07-31-07, 02:44 AM If you have access to DungeonScape.. take the Dungeon Crasher alternate fighter class option for more smack-goodness.

Check out this thread:

http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=791388
TunFiskeMad
07-31-07, 06:47 AM So you can make AoO in your own turn ? Didnt think that was posible.
tarkin
07-31-07, 12:06 PM There is nothing preventing you from taking an AoO on your own turn.

In fact, such a rule would require a massive re-thinking of the game rules.
Eerongal
07-31-07, 12:09 PM There is nothing preventing you from taking an AoO on your own turn.

other than the fact that, generally, enemies don't have a chance to provoke them on your turn :P
Malvoi
07-31-07, 01:50 PM If you have access to DungeonScape.. take the Dungeon Crasher alternate fighter class option for more smack-goodness.

Check out this thread:

http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=791388

Thanks for the link. Indeed this is a deadly combo but I am trying to do it without the Dun. Crsh feature as I may not always have walls nearby and I want to go Gol/Barb/Fig/Frz Bkr.

Will see how it works out, Awesome Blow just seems better for this tree of feats (I.B.R. + Knock.) than Brutal Strike or 3-Mnts.

Thanks to all again. :tiphat:

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Malvoi 07-30-07, 10:02 PM	Both feats do the same thing thematically although AB seems weaker in that it limits your opponent's movement to 10' (and 1d6 damage) while Knock. is limited by how much your roll exceeds your opponent's roll (and thus giving the potential for more damage even though the feat does not state that your opponent takes damage from being pushed back into something). Thoughts or personal experience with either/both? Thanks. :tiphat:
runestar 07-30-07, 10:34 PM	They seem like they might complement each other. Awesome blow will force the opponent to provoke an AoO when he gets pushed out of a square you threaten, and you can then follow up on that AoO with knockback...:D So Awesome blow has the potential do deal more damage (since you deal damage with knockback and the free AoO), but Knockback tends to yield better results.:)
Malvoi 07-30-07, 11:03 PM	They seem like they might complement each other. Awesome blow will force the opponent to provoke an AoO when he gets pushed out of a square you threaten, and you can then follow up on that AoO with knockback...:D So Awesome blow has the potential do deal more damage (since you deal damage with knockback and the free AoO), but Knockback tends to yield better results.:) Mmmm....wow, good point! If it does work that way then...:plotting: Massive smackdowns incoming! :evillaugh: Woohoo! :dancin:
sijigs 07-31-07, 02:44 AM	If you have access to DungeonScape.. take the Dungeon Crasher alternate fighter class option for more smack-goodness. Check out this thread: http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=791388
TunFiskeMad 07-31-07, 06:47 AM	So you can make AoO in your own turn ? Didnt think that was posible.
tarkin 07-31-07, 12:06 PM	There is nothing preventing you from taking an AoO on your own turn. In fact, such a rule would require a massive re-thinking of the game rules.
Eerongal 07-31-07, 12:09 PM	There is nothing preventing you from taking an AoO on your own turn. other than the fact that, generally, enemies don't have a chance to provoke them on your turn :P
Malvoi 07-31-07, 01:50 PM	If you have access to DungeonScape.. take the Dungeon Crasher alternate fighter class option for more smack-goodness. Check out this thread: http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=791388 Thanks for the link. Indeed this is a deadly combo but I am trying to do it without the Dun. Crsh feature as I may not always have walls nearby and I want to go Gol/Barb/Fig/Frz Bkr. Will see how it works out, Awesome Blow just seems better for this tree of feats (I.B.R. + Knock.) than Brutal Strike or 3-Mnts. Thanks to all again. :tiphat: