Leap Attack + Favored Power Attack [Archive] - Wizards Community

Leap Attack + Favored Power Attack [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Novacat
08-12-07, 01:26 AM With a 2H weapon, what is the penalty-to-damage ratio? Here's how I figure it:

First, FPA alters the "base bonus" of another feat (Power Attack), in certain circumstances. This brings the ratio from 1:2 to 1:3. Second, Leap Attack adds "+100%" of the normal bonus damage. Here, we could interpret "normal bonus damage" as either "whatever the bonus damage would be otherwise", which gives us a whopping 1:6 ratio, or "the base bonuses as listed in the Power Attack feat", which gives us a decent 1:5 ratio.

Remember to check the errata for both of these feats before commenting, and keep in mind that these are not multiplier bonuses, so they don't follow the "stacking multipliers" rule. In fact, neither feat adds a bonus at all. They merely alter a bonus granted by Power Attack.
GawainBS
08-12-07, 07:20 AM I'd say it's 1:4. Sure, they aren't modifiers in the strictest sense, but the two feats where written on their own, and they both have the same intention: "adding" damage instead of multiplying it. Should they multiplay, Leap Attack with a Twohander would give 1:4 (Double for 2H, double for Leap), but it gives 1:3. (Once for normal PA, once extra for 2h, once more for Leap.) FEPA would add one additional instance of damage, so we end up at 1:4.
I don't think you could let 2h stack twice (once for Leap, once for FEPA) here.
risner
08-13-07, 10:31 PM With a 2H weapon, what is the penalty-to-damage ratio?

Leap is +1
Two Handed is +1
Favored Power Attack is +1 if Two Handed

Leap+FPA+Two Handed = 1: (1+1+1+1) = 1:4
ravenshrike
08-14-07, 12:48 PM Would only make a 1:6 ratio with a 1 handed weapon as the two handed still specifies that is goes to *3. The errata only changed the 2nd sentence of the benefit, not the third which refers to two handers.
risner
08-14-07, 04:01 PM Would only make a 1:6 ratio with a 1 handed weapon as the two handed still specifies that is goes to *3.

How do you get 1:6 for one handed, it would be 1:3 not 1:6.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Novacat 08-12-07, 01:26 AM	With a 2H weapon, what is the penalty-to-damage ratio? Here's how I figure it: First, FPA alters the "base bonus" of another feat (Power Attack), in certain circumstances. This brings the ratio from 1:2 to 1:3. Second, Leap Attack adds "+100%" of the normal bonus damage. Here, we could interpret "normal bonus damage" as either "whatever the bonus damage would be otherwise", which gives us a whopping 1:6 ratio, or "the base bonuses as listed in the Power Attack feat", which gives us a decent 1:5 ratio. Remember to check the errata for both of these feats before commenting, and keep in mind that these are not multiplier bonuses, so they don't follow the "stacking multipliers" rule. In fact, neither feat adds a bonus at all. They merely alter a bonus granted by Power Attack.
GawainBS 08-12-07, 07:20 AM	I'd say it's 1:4. Sure, they aren't modifiers in the strictest sense, but the two feats where written on their own, and they both have the same intention: "adding" damage instead of multiplying it. Should they multiplay, Leap Attack with a Twohander would give 1:4 (Double for 2H, double for Leap), but it gives 1:3. (Once for normal PA, once extra for 2h, once more for Leap.) FEPA would add one additional instance of damage, so we end up at 1:4. I don't think you could let 2h stack twice (once for Leap, once for FEPA) here.
risner 08-13-07, 10:31 PM	With a 2H weapon, what is the penalty-to-damage ratio? Leap is +1 Two Handed is +1 Favored Power Attack is +1 if Two Handed Leap+FPA+Two Handed = 1: (1+1+1+1) = 1:4
ravenshrike 08-14-07, 12:48 PM	Would only make a 1:6 ratio with a 1 handed weapon as the two handed still specifies that is goes to *3. The errata only changed the 2nd sentence of the benefit, not the third which refers to two handers.
risner 08-14-07, 04:01 PM	Would only make a 1:6 ratio with a 1 handed weapon as the two handed still specifies that is goes to *3. How do you get 1:6 for one handed, it would be 1:3 not 1:6.