Mage Slayer and Practiced Spellcaster [Archive] - Wizards Community

Mage Slayer and Practiced Spellcaster [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Hida Reju
02-02-08, 10:49 AM Question for you all to ponder. Mage Slayer reduces your effective caster lvl by 4, The practiced spellcaster feat(forgive me if I miss named it I am AWB at the moment) increases your effective caster lvl by 4 not to exceed your hit dice.

The feat was meant for a person to get missing caster lvls back from multiclassing keeping his magic at the same strength.

Will the one override the penalty of the other allowing a Gish to still use his magic at near full stregth and still have Mage Slayer?
CrimsonDeath
02-02-08, 12:01 PM Yes. A level 5 Duskblade with Practiced Spellcaster and Mage Slayer will have a total caster level of 5.

I understand that Mage Slayer reduces all your caster levels, but Practiced Spellcaster only applies to one caster level, so it's not as good a combination for a Mystic Theurge or other dual-progression class. You may also want to check with your DM to see if Mage Slayer affects a psionic character's Manifester Level.
Hida Reju
02-02-08, 12:21 PM We use full transparency for all Psionic/Magic anyway so it works the same for manifesting on the defensive as well as long as you have 2 ranks in Psicraft and Spellcraft.

But this raises interesting questions on single class gish or mage/cleric/druid class types that want to beat down mages. Since it works on divine spell casters I would be willing to burn 2 feats to hurt mages with no change to my caster lvl.

I may have to explore this further.
Father Dale
02-02-08, 05:14 PM It will also effect any spell-like abilities you might have, whether these be derived from race, template, class, feat, or whatnot. Practiced Spellcaster won't help with those.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Hida Reju 02-02-08, 10:49 AM	Question for you all to ponder. Mage Slayer reduces your effective caster lvl by 4, The practiced spellcaster feat(forgive me if I miss named it I am AWB at the moment) increases your effective caster lvl by 4 not to exceed your hit dice. The feat was meant for a person to get missing caster lvls back from multiclassing keeping his magic at the same strength. Will the one override the penalty of the other allowing a Gish to still use his magic at near full stregth and still have Mage Slayer?
CrimsonDeath 02-02-08, 12:01 PM	Yes. A level 5 Duskblade with Practiced Spellcaster and Mage Slayer will have a total caster level of 5. I understand that Mage Slayer reduces all your caster levels, but Practiced Spellcaster only applies to one caster level, so it's not as good a combination for a Mystic Theurge or other dual-progression class. You may also want to check with your DM to see if Mage Slayer affects a psionic character's Manifester Level.
Hida Reju 02-02-08, 12:21 PM	We use full transparency for all Psionic/Magic anyway so it works the same for manifesting on the defensive as well as long as you have 2 ranks in Psicraft and Spellcraft. But this raises interesting questions on single class gish or mage/cleric/druid class types that want to beat down mages. Since it works on divine spell casters I would be willing to burn 2 feats to hurt mages with no change to my caster lvl. I may have to explore this further.
Father Dale 02-02-08, 05:14 PM	It will also effect any spell-like abilities you might have, whether these be derived from race, template, class, feat, or whatnot. Practiced Spellcaster won't help with those.