Many Shot...too many shots? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Many Shot...too many shots? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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DMFighter10
03-02-07, 06:32 PM I have a question regarding many shot that I couldn't find in the D&D guru's answers. My question is in regards to the many shot feat. I see that it does not require a full round action to use. So, does that mean that, for example a ranger with said feat, one could use many shot for as many attacks that that person has. For instance, say you are a level 20 ranger with 4 attacks. Now you use Many Shot feat and with your BAB you could shoot 4 arrows at once. Since this does not require a full attack action however, does that mean you could do many shot for each of your 4 attacks for a full attack action resulting in 16 arrows in one turn? Not to mention I have read that improved many shot allows one to shoot more than 4 arrows per many shot, so theoretically this would multiply even further. Can someone help me with this riddle? Thanks
Zherog
03-02-07, 06:35 PM Manyshot is a standard action, not an "attack" action. Therefore, you can only make one "Manyshot" per round.
3DJutsu
03-02-07, 06:36 PM No, because Manyshot requires a Standard action to use

EDIT: damn Zherog beat me to it. But I'll do one better, I'll quote it!

Manyshot [General]
Prerequisites
Dex 17, Point Blank Shot, Rapid Shot, base attack bonus +6

Benefit
As a standard action, you may fire two arrows at a single opponent within 30 feet. Both arrows use the same attack roll (with a -4 penalty) to determine success and deal damage normally (but see Special).

For every five points of base attack bonus you have above +6, you may add one additional arrow to this attack, to a maximum of four arrows at a base attack bonus of +16. However, each arrow after the second adds a cumulative -2 penalty on the attack roll (for a total penalty of -6 for three arrows and -8 for four).

Damage reduction and other resistances apply separately against each arrow fired.

Special
Regardless of the number of arrows you fire, you apply precision-based damage only once. If you score a critical hit, only the first arrow fired deals critical damage; all others deal regular damage.

A fighter may select Manyshot as one of his fighter bonus feats.

A 6th-level ranger who has chosen the archery combat style is treated as having Manyshot even if he does not have the prerequisites for it, but only when he is wearing light or no armor.
runestar
03-03-07, 12:25 AM If you could somehow access multiple standard actions however....:P
Lazzar
03-03-07, 08:09 PM If you could somehow access multiple standard actions however....:P

If you could, but you can't, unless haste.

To use your multiple attacks you need to use a full round action. EIther full rouind action or a standard, not both.
3DJutsu
03-03-07, 10:36 PM If you could, but you can't, unless haste.

To use your multiple attacks you need to use a full round action. EIther full rouind action or a standard, not both.

Haste gives extra attack in a full-round action, not another standard action.
DarkRhystar
03-03-07, 10:37 PM Haste gives extra attack in a full-round action, not another standard action.

He could be referring to 3.0's Haste... but that would be silly. :)
Raymond_Luxury_Yacht
03-03-07, 11:17 PM If you could somehow access multiple standard actions however....:P

So Chokers.
nameneeded
03-04-07, 12:14 AM No, because Manyshot requires a Standard action to use

EDIT: damn Zherog beat me to it. But I'll do one better, I'll quote it!

Ur Funny! :D
darth_borehd
03-04-07, 12:41 AM Would the Heroic Surge feat allow another standard action?
Novacat
03-04-07, 06:33 AM So Chokers.

A 20th level Chocker Ranger with Manyshot would be pretty sick.
Willie the Duck
03-04-07, 05:30 PM He would still only get two manyshots. given that he gets two of whatever he wants (that take a standard action), it's not that uber. It does mean you can get martial choker cheese instead of the standard spellcaster choker cheese, but in the end, spellcasting still trumps martial.
DMFighter10
03-05-07, 01:49 PM Thanks for all the responses. That clears it up for me. I don't know how I missed that detail in the first place.
fknretard
03-07-07, 03:18 PM Would the Heroic Surge feat allow another standard action?

this is dnd bud not star wars
mugguod
03-07-07, 04:44 PM I was in a game last year where none of us including the Ranger player nor the DM had read the Feat descriptions carefully. He was combining Rapid Shot and Many Shot and using up a whole quiver of arrows every turn...

Until we figured it out, we thought we had an Elf-Ranger Gattling Gun. The rest of the party was going to become NPCs just carrying extra ammo for him. :)
starfire311
03-07-07, 04:51 PM Thanks for all the responses. That clears it up for me. I don't know how I missed that detail in the first place.

You are not the 1st and you will not be the last.
3DJutsu
03-08-07, 04:10 PM You are not the 1st and you will not be the last.

Too true, thus that is the purpose of these forums, so uninformed people become more knowlegble and pass what they learn onto others.

...what? Too philosophical?

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DMFighter10 03-02-07, 06:32 PM	I have a question regarding many shot that I couldn't find in the D&D guru's answers. My question is in regards to the many shot feat. I see that it does not require a full round action to use. So, does that mean that, for example a ranger with said feat, one could use many shot for as many attacks that that person has. For instance, say you are a level 20 ranger with 4 attacks. Now you use Many Shot feat and with your BAB you could shoot 4 arrows at once. Since this does not require a full attack action however, does that mean you could do many shot for each of your 4 attacks for a full attack action resulting in 16 arrows in one turn? Not to mention I have read that improved many shot allows one to shoot more than 4 arrows per many shot, so theoretically this would multiply even further. Can someone help me with this riddle? Thanks
Zherog 03-02-07, 06:35 PM	Manyshot is a standard action, not an "attack" action. Therefore, you can only make one "Manyshot" per round.
3DJutsu 03-02-07, 06:36 PM	No, because Manyshot requires a Standard action to use EDIT: damn Zherog beat me to it. But I'll do one better, I'll quote it! Manyshot [General] Prerequisites Dex 17, Point Blank Shot, Rapid Shot, base attack bonus +6 Benefit As a standard action, you may fire two arrows at a single opponent within 30 feet. Both arrows use the same attack roll (with a -4 penalty) to determine success and deal damage normally (but see Special). For every five points of base attack bonus you have above +6, you may add one additional arrow to this attack, to a maximum of four arrows at a base attack bonus of +16. However, each arrow after the second adds a cumulative -2 penalty on the attack roll (for a total penalty of -6 for three arrows and -8 for four). Damage reduction and other resistances apply separately against each arrow fired. Special Regardless of the number of arrows you fire, you apply precision-based damage only once. If you score a critical hit, only the first arrow fired deals critical damage; all others deal regular damage. A fighter may select Manyshot as one of his fighter bonus feats. A 6th-level ranger who has chosen the archery combat style is treated as having Manyshot even if he does not have the prerequisites for it, but only when he is wearing light or no armor.
runestar 03-03-07, 12:25 AM	If you could somehow access multiple standard actions however....:P
Lazzar 03-03-07, 08:09 PM	If you could somehow access multiple standard actions however....:P If you could, but you can't, unless haste. To use your multiple attacks you need to use a full round action. EIther full rouind action or a standard, not both.
3DJutsu 03-03-07, 10:36 PM	If you could, but you can't, unless haste. To use your multiple attacks you need to use a full round action. EIther full rouind action or a standard, not both. Haste gives extra attack in a full-round action, not another standard action.
DarkRhystar 03-03-07, 10:37 PM	Haste gives extra attack in a full-round action, not another standard action. He could be referring to 3.0's Haste... but that would be silly. :)
Raymond_Luxury_Yacht 03-03-07, 11:17 PM	If you could somehow access multiple standard actions however....:P So Chokers.
nameneeded 03-04-07, 12:14 AM	No, because Manyshot requires a Standard action to use EDIT: damn Zherog beat me to it. But I'll do one better, I'll quote it! Ur Funny! :D
darth_borehd 03-04-07, 12:41 AM	Would the Heroic Surge feat allow another standard action?
Novacat 03-04-07, 06:33 AM	So Chokers. A 20th level Chocker Ranger with Manyshot would be pretty sick.
Willie the Duck 03-04-07, 05:30 PM	He would still only get two manyshots. given that he gets two of whatever he wants (that take a standard action), it's not that uber. It does mean you can get martial choker cheese instead of the standard spellcaster choker cheese, but in the end, spellcasting still trumps martial.
DMFighter10 03-05-07, 01:49 PM	Thanks for all the responses. That clears it up for me. I don't know how I missed that detail in the first place.
fknretard 03-07-07, 03:18 PM	Would the Heroic Surge feat allow another standard action? this is dnd bud not star wars
mugguod 03-07-07, 04:44 PM	I was in a game last year where none of us including the Ranger player nor the DM had read the Feat descriptions carefully. He was combining Rapid Shot and Many Shot and using up a whole quiver of arrows every turn... Until we figured it out, we thought we had an Elf-Ranger Gattling Gun. The rest of the party was going to become NPCs just carrying extra ammo for him. :)
starfire311 03-07-07, 04:51 PM	Thanks for all the responses. That clears it up for me. I don't know how I missed that detail in the first place. You are not the 1st and you will not be the last.
3DJutsu 03-08-07, 04:10 PM	You are not the 1st and you will not be the last. Too true, thus that is the purpose of these forums, so uninformed people become more knowlegble and pass what they learn onto others. ...what? Too philosophical?