melee weapon mastery morningstar [Archive] - Wizards Community

melee weapon mastery morningstar [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Ketone
07-14-07, 10:12 PM the feat says you can apply a +2 to attack and damage with any weapon that has the specified damage type.

So can you take it twice for piercing and bludgeoning and have it apply twice to morningstar? (morningstars do both types of damage).
Pryrates
07-14-07, 10:27 PM If it doesn't say otherwise in the feats description then it pretty much falls under DM's discretion. Take it up with your DM and see what he/she says.
runestar
07-14-07, 10:33 PM So can you take it twice for piercing and bludgeoning and have it apply twice to morningstar? (morningstars do both types of damage).
You can take it twice, but you still may only benefit from one at any one time.
Ketone
07-14-07, 10:37 PM Why? Certain weapons do 2 types of damage, and you have to choose one to do (scythe for instance can do either slashing or piercing, but not both at the same time).

Morningstars aren't like this, they specifically benefit from both types of damage at the same time. So I believe it would benefit from both mastery feats.
runestar
07-14-07, 11:44 PM Why? Certain weapons do 2 types of damage, and you have to choose one to do (scythe for instance can do either slashing or piercing, but not both at the same time).

Because as a general rule, nameless bonuses from the same source do not stack.

If a weapon deals two different types of damage (such as a dagger), could I take Melee Weapon Mastery (Player’s Handbook II, 81) for both types of damage? And if I did, would both bonuses apply when using a weapon that dealt both of those types of damage simultaneously (such as a morningstar)?

Yes and no. A character with Weapon Focus (morningstar) and Weapon Specialization (morningstar) could take Melee Weapon Mastery with either bludgeoning weapons or piercing weapons (since the morningstar deals both types of damage), or he could take it once for each.

The feat’s bonus wouldn’t stack with itself, however, even if the weapon deals both types of damage simultaneously.
Kouk
07-15-07, 12:26 AM This is dealt with in the FAQ that was referenced in the previous post.
Ketone
07-15-07, 08:20 PM oh, ok thanks
WolfHati
07-16-07, 01:39 AM The thing you *can* do with a morning star, however, is wield it in two hands and use both driving attack and brutal strike at the same time.

If you're a halfling outrider, you can do this on a charging mount.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Ketone 07-14-07, 10:12 PM	the feat says you can apply a +2 to attack and damage with any weapon that has the specified damage type. So can you take it twice for piercing and bludgeoning and have it apply twice to morningstar? (morningstars do both types of damage).
Pryrates 07-14-07, 10:27 PM	If it doesn't say otherwise in the feats description then it pretty much falls under DM's discretion. Take it up with your DM and see what he/she says.
runestar 07-14-07, 10:33 PM	So can you take it twice for piercing and bludgeoning and have it apply twice to morningstar? (morningstars do both types of damage). You can take it twice, but you still may only benefit from one at any one time.
Ketone 07-14-07, 10:37 PM	Why? Certain weapons do 2 types of damage, and you have to choose one to do (scythe for instance can do either slashing or piercing, but not both at the same time). Morningstars aren't like this, they specifically benefit from both types of damage at the same time. So I believe it would benefit from both mastery feats.
runestar 07-14-07, 11:44 PM	Why? Certain weapons do 2 types of damage, and you have to choose one to do (scythe for instance can do either slashing or piercing, but not both at the same time). Because as a general rule, nameless bonuses from the same source do not stack. If a weapon deals two different types of damage (such as a dagger), could I take Melee Weapon Mastery (Player’s Handbook II, 81) for both types of damage? And if I did, would both bonuses apply when using a weapon that dealt both of those types of damage simultaneously (such as a morningstar)? Yes and no. A character with Weapon Focus (morningstar) and Weapon Specialization (morningstar) could take Melee Weapon Mastery with either bludgeoning weapons or piercing weapons (since the morningstar deals both types of damage), or he could take it once for each. The feat’s bonus wouldn’t stack with itself, however, even if the weapon deals both types of damage simultaneously.
Kouk 07-15-07, 12:26 AM	This is dealt with in the FAQ that was referenced in the previous post.
Ketone 07-15-07, 08:20 PM	oh, ok thanks
WolfHati 07-16-07, 01:39 AM	The thing you can do with a morning star, however, is wield it in two hands and use both driving attack and brutal strike at the same time. If you're a halfling outrider, you can do this on a charging mount.