Metabreath Feats and Undead Dragons [Archive] - Wizards Community

Metabreath Feats and Undead Dragons [Archive] - Wizards Community

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RancorClaw
10-28-07, 04:54 AM All (but one) of the Metabreath Feats listed in The Draconomicon have a Constitution score as a prerequisite. But the examples of the Dracolich and Vampiric Dragon from the same book, both have at least one Metabreath feat apiece. (And being undead, they don't have a Constitution score.)

Does an undead dragon use its Charisma score instead, for the prerequisite, or do undead dragons simply ignore that particular prerequisite of those feats?

Or are undead dragons completely unable to use such Metabreath feats, and the two examples are actually in error? (Or perhaps they were retained from before the dragon became undead? But it doesn't seem like a good idea to list it in those examples, because of the likely confusion it'll cause.)
runestar
10-28-07, 06:45 AM In dragons of faerun, there is a metabreath feat which does not have a con prereq, and allows undead dragons to qualify for normal metabreath feats even if they do not meet the con requirement (using their cha in place).

Can't comment further since I don't own draconomicon though.
Tordak
10-28-07, 01:49 PM You should prabably use the same stat that increases the breath DC.
april151978
10-29-07, 01:51 PM Since back in the day of 3.0 someone asked about barbarians and rage when undead, and the answer there is default to charisma, I would say you do the same here...

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
RancorClaw 10-28-07, 04:54 AM	All (but one) of the Metabreath Feats listed in The Draconomicon have a Constitution score as a prerequisite. But the examples of the Dracolich and Vampiric Dragon from the same book, both have at least one Metabreath feat apiece. (And being undead, they don't have a Constitution score.) Does an undead dragon use its Charisma score instead, for the prerequisite, or do undead dragons simply ignore that particular prerequisite of those feats? Or are undead dragons completely unable to use such Metabreath feats, and the two examples are actually in error? (Or perhaps they were retained from before the dragon became undead? But it doesn't seem like a good idea to list it in those examples, because of the likely confusion it'll cause.)
runestar 10-28-07, 06:45 AM	In dragons of faerun, there is a metabreath feat which does not have a con prereq, and allows undead dragons to qualify for normal metabreath feats even if they do not meet the con requirement (using their cha in place). Can't comment further since I don't own draconomicon though.
Tordak 10-28-07, 01:49 PM	You should prabably use the same stat that increases the breath DC.
april151978 10-29-07, 01:51 PM	Since back in the day of 3.0 someone asked about barbarians and rage when undead, and the answer there is default to charisma, I would say you do the same here...