Monkey grip and wield oversized weapon? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Monkey grip and wield oversized weapon? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
acide_bob
06-06-07, 07:40 AM I need help here to understand waht those feats do. Or in fact be sure i read them correctly.

I understand that Monkey grip(complete Warrior pg103) let you wield a bigger weapon with a -2 penalty on attack roll.
Meaning simply that i could use a Large longsword as a long sword. Or a Large Greatsword as a greatsword.

but Wield oversized weapon(Complete Warrior pg153, Epic feats) actually bugs me a bit.
The way i see it, a medium size character (let's say a Human) couls use a Longsword as a light weapon.
Would that also mean that a greatsword is considered one-handed for a Medium character?
and stacking monkey grip and wield oversized weapon, i could use a Huge Greatsword two-handed with only -2 penalty to attack?
and that's where i dont' understand the feat. I need explanation on those two and how they stack
Majick
06-06-07, 07:53 AM where is wield oversized weapon from?
Steely_Dan
06-06-07, 08:11 AM where is wield oversized weapon from?

Complete Warrior pg153, Epic feats
Steely_Dan
06-06-07, 08:13 AM I need explanation on those two and how they stack

They don't stack

Wield Oversized Weapon functions just like Monkey Grip, except you don't take the –2 penalty.
Frugal
06-06-07, 08:19 AM I'm away from my books right now, but I believe that Wield Oversized Weapon (also in CW in the epic section, to answer that question) is worded the same way as Monkey Grip; it allows you to wield a weapon 1 size category larger than you are (although without the penalty). Basically, the feat supersedes Monkey Grip by removing the penalty.
Lecen_of_Mitran
06-06-07, 08:30 AM WOW WOW WOW WOW.

Just as friend said before: it works just like Monkey Grip, but without the -2 penalty.

And, a large short sword could be used as a light weapon. Nowhere says that you can equip a largesword with one hand. If you want that brokeness in your games, better go play 3.0 edition.

Good luck!
risner
06-06-07, 09:42 AM stacking monkey grip and wield oversized weapon, i could use a Huge Greatsword two-handed with only -2 penalty to attack?
and that's where i dont' understand the feat. I need explanation on those two and how they stack

How do you get the idea they stack?
They obviously do not stack.

Monkey Grip says "one size larger than your size", so unless Wield Oversize Weapon says "you enlarge to one size larger than yourself, now since you are bigger, you can use weapons of your size" then there is no meaningful way to stack them.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
acide_bob 06-06-07, 07:40 AM	I need help here to understand waht those feats do. Or in fact be sure i read them correctly. I understand that Monkey grip(complete Warrior pg103) let you wield a bigger weapon with a -2 penalty on attack roll. Meaning simply that i could use a Large longsword as a long sword. Or a Large Greatsword as a greatsword. but Wield oversized weapon(Complete Warrior pg153, Epic feats) actually bugs me a bit. The way i see it, a medium size character (let's say a Human) couls use a Longsword as a light weapon. Would that also mean that a greatsword is considered one-handed for a Medium character? and stacking monkey grip and wield oversized weapon, i could use a Huge Greatsword two-handed with only -2 penalty to attack? and that's where i dont' understand the feat. I need explanation on those two and how they stack
Majick 06-06-07, 07:53 AM	where is wield oversized weapon from?
Steely_Dan 06-06-07, 08:11 AM	where is wield oversized weapon from? Complete Warrior pg153, Epic feats
Steely_Dan 06-06-07, 08:13 AM	I need explanation on those two and how they stack They don't stack Wield Oversized Weapon functions just like Monkey Grip, except you don't take the –2 penalty.
Frugal 06-06-07, 08:19 AM	I'm away from my books right now, but I believe that Wield Oversized Weapon (also in CW in the epic section, to answer that question) is worded the same way as Monkey Grip; it allows you to wield a weapon 1 size category larger than you are (although without the penalty). Basically, the feat supersedes Monkey Grip by removing the penalty.
Lecen_of_Mitran 06-06-07, 08:30 AM	WOW WOW WOW WOW. Just as friend said before: it works just like Monkey Grip, but without the -2 penalty. And, a large short sword could be used as a light weapon. Nowhere says that you can equip a largesword with one hand. If you want that brokeness in your games, better go play 3.0 edition. Good luck!
risner 06-06-07, 09:42 AM	stacking monkey grip and wield oversized weapon, i could use a Huge Greatsword two-handed with only -2 penalty to attack? and that's where i dont' understand the feat. I need explanation on those two and how they stack How do you get the idea they stack? They obviously do not stack. Monkey Grip says "one size larger than your size", so unless Wield Oversize Weapon says "you enlarge to one size larger than yourself, now since you are bigger, you can use weapons of your size" then there is no meaningful way to stack them.