Post/Author/DateTime	Post
stuporhero93 03-27-07, 04:56 PM	Zen Combat [General] Prerequisites: Wis 13+ Benefit: By focusing his or her inner energies, a Character may substitute Wisdom for Strength in combat.
bobothechimp 03-27-07, 05:47 PM	Almost completely removes the need for strength. Completely overpowered.
Kintara 03-27-07, 06:11 PM	You mean for both attack and damage? Well, honestly, there's already a feat that does something similar, it's in the Book of Exalted Deeds. It only allows for you to use Wisdom for your attack bonus, not damage. So there you go.
stuporhero93 03-28-07, 05:23 PM	I was trying to go for the "mind over matter" concept like how those old monks in Asia can still overpower a young, fit man in his prime.
unusualsuspect 03-28-07, 07:48 PM	Concept in mind, the feat Kintara mentions not only replaces only the attack bonus, but only does so with a) a limited set of weapons, and b) has a +1 bab requirement. What monk wouldn't take this feat unless he's already using Carmendine Monk or Kung Fu Genius?
DarkRhystar 03-28-07, 07:48 PM	I was trying to go for the "mind over matter" concept like how those old monks in Asia can still overpower a young, fit man in his prime. Those old men don't overpower young guys because they're stronger. They overpower young guys because they're more experienced aka more levels. Your feat is too good. What monk wouldn't take this feat unless he's already using Carmendine Monk or Kung Fu Genius? What Cleric wouldn't take this feat? Druid? Swordsage?
Perseus_Stoned 03-28-07, 07:52 PM	Concept in mind, the feat Kintara mentions not only replaces only the attack bonus, but only does so with a) a limited set of weapons, and b) has a +1 bab requirement. What monk wouldn't take this feat unless he's already using Carmendine Monk or Kung Fu Genius? To further DarkRhyster's point, what... most anything wouldn't take that feat? Its effectively allowing giving you a reason to max wisdom (with will saves) at the cost of a feat. Overpowered and I doubt possible to make playable. The feat Kintara is (and rightfully should be) as close as you get to something like this.
Defensor_Vindex 03-28-07, 09:10 PM	I like it, research Tai Chi, its really a fluid form of enrgy and balance. It goes really well with your feat.
FrostHammer 03-28-07, 09:15 PM	What if this feat only adds Wisdom bonus to Attack Bonus, not damage?
Tim4488 03-28-07, 09:19 PM	Again, older martial artists own younger ones due to their being higher level, thus having a higher BAB. Or, in real world perspective, they have a greater knowledge of techniques. Not to mention, they train extremely hard. An older martial artist probably still has above average strength and constitution, and certainly has above average dexterity, unless he's gotten sloppy. And in unarmed martial arts, accuracy is to some degree the most important part (I take Tae Kwon Do, and a lot of it is just making sure you hit the solar plexus), so Wisdom to attack makes more sense than Wisdom to damage. Intuitive Attack, as mentioned above.
Perseus_Stoned 03-29-07, 12:04 AM	What if this feat only adds Wisdom bonus to Attack Bonus, not damage? Then it would be identical to an already existing feat, as mentioned.
unusualsuspect 03-29-07, 12:27 AM	Then it would be identical to an already existing feat, as mentioned. Better than an identical feat, actually, also already mentioned.
Perseus_Stoned 03-29-07, 12:32 AM	Better than an identical feat, actually, also already mentioned. This is true, but would you find it logical/balanced to make a feat called, "Improved Health" which grants you +2 HP for every hit die you possess, when there is already a feat that grants you +1 (Improved Toughness)? Plus does the afore-mentioned feat fulfill unarmed strikes? Because if it does than it has already been instituted and fulfills the original poster's wants for a wise monk character. If not, then I apologize for speaking in ignorance, but I do not believe that to be the case and I stand by my correction until said enlightening has occured. Edit: The reason I used identical, while not necessarily fulfilling the definition of the word, was because it was identical for the purpose of the original purpose's wants. I felt FrostHammer had not cared enough to read beyond the first post, so he/she was already answering a question that had been addressed numerous times. Granted my tone was a bit harsh, but it was not meant to be rude, so much as a gentle chide for taking a stance on a topic that hadn't been thought out.
unusualsuspect 03-29-07, 12:45 AM	Intuitive Attack, the "identical" feat in question, does in fact apply to monk unarmed strikes (though not, entertainingly enough, other class's unarmed strikes). For the record, I was agreeing with you. :)
Darth Sephiroth 03-29-07, 12:53 AM	Here is my ideas on the idea based on Zen Archery. Zen Fighting [General] You have trained in many forms of fighting that relies more on your training than your strength. Prerequisites: Wisdom 13+ Benefit: You use your wisdom modifier instead of your Strength modifier for your attacks with one-handed melee weapons (Light or otherwise).