Ninja / Monk Feat [Archive] - Wizards Community

Ninja / Monk Feat [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Tasaleen
04-18-07, 07:48 PM Is there a feat that lets Ninja and Monk levels stack?
Magrus
04-18-07, 07:52 PM Yes, somewhere. I think it's in Complete Scoundral?
Joshua_Cail
04-18-07, 07:53 PM I think the ascetic stalker feat lets you do that. I believe its in the complete scoundrel.
Kradlo
04-18-07, 09:01 PM From Complete Scoundrel, pg 73: Ascetic Stalker: Your monk and ninja levels stack for the purpose of determining the size of your ki pool. Your monk and ninja levels stack for the purpose of determing your unarmed strike damage, as well as your ki strike class feature. In addition, you can multiclass freely between the monk and ninja classes.

This is somewhat abbreviated, but this is the gist of it.
bull30548
07-06-07, 05:14 PM Here is a question to follow that up why does the monk's and Ninja AC bonus not stack together?
ShinAkuma2
07-06-07, 07:05 PM Because it's the same bonus from the same ability.

It's like using Bull's Strength twice. These kinds of things never stack.
bull30548
07-06-07, 07:23 PM No that is enhancement bonuses don't stack. They are the same abilities but a monk level 10 and a monk/ninja level 10 should have +2 AC bonus because those are the same Supernatural abilities. I have never heard of those not stacking
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ShinAkuma2
07-06-07, 09:49 PM Well, I've never heard of them stacking, so there you have it.
Daeva
07-07-07, 04:28 PM considering it takes 4 levles in monk to take the feat, and you have to take the 4 in a row, and have to have 2 ninja levels, you cant take it until level 6, the monk and ninja levels dont stack for ac simply because the feat doesnt say so, you dont get double your wis bonus because insight bonuses to AC that derive from the same stat do not stack.

and multiclass xp penalties still apply, so unless your a human or half elf you will eat an xp penalty as a ninja 2 ,.which also means you will have to wait until level 9 and be like ninja 4 monk 5 if you want to avoid xp penalties.

AND you still have to remain lawfull >.>
KamelGuru
07-08-07, 06:58 AM If you want to get more out of a ninja/monk, then you have the Kung Fu Genius feat, which allows you to base your monk-AC on INT.
Ace_of_time
07-08-07, 11:08 AM I thought AC bonus was a dodge bonus? From monk and the like.
the wis bonus is added one time because you can't add it twice. But the AC bonuses are dodge bonuses and are there exception to the not stacking rule. The feat is there for extra damage and ki powers, But the AC bonus from high levels in the classes stack.
nepence
07-08-07, 11:11 PM The type of AC boost provided by the classes is unnamed, from what I can tell. However, the ninja bonus specifically says it can't stack with the monk one. That's why it doesn't.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Tasaleen 04-18-07, 07:48 PM	Is there a feat that lets Ninja and Monk levels stack?
Magrus 04-18-07, 07:52 PM	Yes, somewhere. I think it's in Complete Scoundral?
Joshua_Cail 04-18-07, 07:53 PM	I think the ascetic stalker feat lets you do that. I believe its in the complete scoundrel.
Kradlo 04-18-07, 09:01 PM	From Complete Scoundrel, pg 73: Ascetic Stalker: Your monk and ninja levels stack for the purpose of determining the size of your ki pool. Your monk and ninja levels stack for the purpose of determing your unarmed strike damage, as well as your ki strike class feature. In addition, you can multiclass freely between the monk and ninja classes. This is somewhat abbreviated, but this is the gist of it.
bull30548 07-06-07, 05:14 PM	Here is a question to follow that up why does the monk's and Ninja AC bonus not stack together?
ShinAkuma2 07-06-07, 07:05 PM	Because it's the same bonus from the same ability. It's like using Bull's Strength twice. These kinds of things never stack.
bull30548 07-06-07, 07:23 PM	No that is enhancement bonuses don't stack. They are the same abilities but a monk level 10 and a monk/ninja level 10 should have +2 AC bonus because those are the same Supernatural abilities. I have never heard of those not stacking .
ShinAkuma2 07-06-07, 09:49 PM	Well, I've never heard of them stacking, so there you have it.
Daeva 07-07-07, 04:28 PM	considering it takes 4 levles in monk to take the feat, and you have to take the 4 in a row, and have to have 2 ninja levels, you cant take it until level 6, the monk and ninja levels dont stack for ac simply because the feat doesnt say so, you dont get double your wis bonus because insight bonuses to AC that derive from the same stat do not stack. and multiclass xp penalties still apply, so unless your a human or half elf you will eat an xp penalty as a ninja 2 ,.which also means you will have to wait until level 9 and be like ninja 4 monk 5 if you want to avoid xp penalties. AND you still have to remain lawfull >.>
KamelGuru 07-08-07, 06:58 AM	If you want to get more out of a ninja/monk, then you have the Kung Fu Genius feat, which allows you to base your monk-AC on INT.
Ace_of_time 07-08-07, 11:08 AM	I thought AC bonus was a dodge bonus? From monk and the like. the wis bonus is added one time because you can't add it twice. But the AC bonuses are dodge bonuses and are there exception to the not stacking rule. The feat is there for extra damage and ki powers, But the AC bonus from high levels in the classes stack.
nepence 07-08-07, 11:11 PM	The type of AC boost provided by the classes is unnamed, from what I can tell. However, the ninja bonus specifically says it can't stack with the monk one. That's why it doesn't.