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Smiley 05-06-07, 10:16 AM	Don't know if it's made, don't know if it exists or what... I just want your opinion on this feat I thought up for my range-dependant character, who has very unfortunate in her last many encounters, due to damage reduction and/or energy resistance/immune. So I've come up with this feat that should be able to give a bit more physical damage on those tougher monsters. Normally, when you use a mighty composite longbow which is more mighty than your strength bonus, you get a penalty. This feat enables you to not only use a bow more mighty than your str bonus normally, but also lets you add the rest of the strength with a cost of aim instead. "Shani drew back the string of the massive bow, and her arms trembled violently from the strain. If this shot didn't take it down, nothing would." So, normally when she uses her +3 strength with no penalty on her +5 mighty bow, she can draw upon the last two points, at the cost of 2 BAB per shot. (edit) (By 2 BAB per shot I mean that you take as much BAB as you add damage. This is an effect that you switch on/off, and can use with rapid shot/manyshot if you so wish etc.) Now, I don't know if it should be limited somehow, so that a character with a +3 bonus wouldn't be able to use a Mighty +10 bow.. I'm just really annoyed that while I can take down an army of heavily armored soldiers from afar, I can't even put a dent into whatever with a bit of DR. Prerequisites, something like BAB 10 / normal power attack.
Throg 05-06-07, 01:51 PM	Hmm, don't make it sound so complicated, perhaps something like... Reckless Shot Pre-req: Weapon Focus (any bow), Power Attack Benifit: You may use a Composite Bow to it's full benifit even if you do not possess the strength required. On your action, before making attack rolls for a round, you may choose to subtract a number from all ranged attack rolls and add the same number to all ranged damage rolls, up to a maximum for the composite bow. This number may not exceed your base attack bonus. The penalty on attacks and bonus on damage apply until your next turn. You still retain the penalty to attack for not having sufficent strength to weild the bow properly.
Smiley 05-06-07, 02:30 PM	That would basicly be it, thanks. So you think the -2 penalty should still apply? I wonder if there could be a workaround for that. Maybe a gnomish bow with wheels..(pulleys?)
Throg 05-06-07, 03:28 PM	That would basicly be it, thanks. So you think the -2 penalty should still apply? I wonder if there could be a workaround for that. Maybe a gnomish bow with wheels..(pulleys?) You're still too weak to use the bow effectively.. oh, this should be a fighter bonus feat too! Anyways.. There could be a second feat that stems off this one.. such as; Improved Reckless Shot Pre-Req: Reckless Shot, Power Attack, Weapon Focus (Any Bow) Benefit: When making a Reckless shot, you may now sacrifice to hit above the composite amount on the bow, but still have a limit of your BAB. In addition, you no longer suffer penialties associated with below strength to use a composite bow.
Smiley 05-06-07, 09:33 PM	The general idea to remove the -2 penalty, would be that the character has learned to aim relatively effectively, during stress. A character without the feat would have the normal -2, that makes sense. If anything, then the -2 should be removed with a feat before this one. I agree on making it a fighter bonus feat as well. There's no reason a fighter based archer shouldn't be able to pick it through his class. I don't understand the improved feat though, I see the reasons for making an addition, but the thing is, that the str application bonus on the bow kinda sets the physical limit. You can't squeeze more juice out of an empty lemon. This is one of the few limits, that money can actually buy you out of. (by buying a stronger bow) Besides, there's hardly any need since you may put as much strength app bonus as you want on it, as long as you pay. (DM's discretion - a bow with more than 5 str app bonus, should be rare) An alternative would be that power attack itself removes the -2 penalty, thereby giving the archer a logical reason to take it as a prerequisite. (Making the power attack feat slightly more desireable. I'm definately for improving the old feats.)
Throg 05-07-07, 10:16 AM	The general idea to remove the -2 penalty, would be that the character has learned to aim relatively effectively, during stress. A character without the feat would have the normal -2, that makes sense. If anything, then the -2 should be removed with a feat before this one. I agree on making it a fighter bonus feat as well. There's no reason a fighter based archer shouldn't be able to pick it through his class. I don't understand the improved feat though, I see the reasons for making an addition, but the thing is, that the str application bonus on the bow kinda sets the physical limit. You can't squeeze more juice out of an empty lemon. This is one of the few limits, that money can actually buy you out of. (by buying a stronger bow) Besides, there's hardly any need since you may put as much strength app bonus as you want on it, as long as you pay. (DM's discretion - a bow with more than 5 str app bonus, should be rare) An alternative would be that power attack itself removes the -2 penalty, thereby giving the archer a logical reason to take it as a prerequisite. (Making the power attack feat slightly more desireable. I'm definately for improving the old feats.) Hmm... You could have it where it's more of a synergy. Instead of having Power Attack as a pre-req, just have it be Weapon Focus and another archery feat.. then have a special catagory where if the character has Power Attack, then he ignores the -2 for not having the required str for a composite bow.
Smiley 05-07-07, 06:16 PM	Sounds great, I agree. Anymore comments? praise? critic?
Argo 05-07-07, 07:46 PM	Deleted by poster.