Removing a dragon's acid gland? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Removing a dragon's acid gland? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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JadawinParr
03-07-07, 12:06 AM I seem to remember reading something (in one of the dozen or so rule books) about how to adjudicate a character trying to remove a poison or acid gland from a monster. Seems like it might have been a heal check. Does anyone happen to know where this rule might be found? Or at least what the rule might be?

Thank you for any help you can offer.

Jadawin
Flint, Michigan
Nathreet
03-07-07, 01:40 AM Well, I imagine the dragon would have to be unconcious first. Then it's a matter of surgery via a heal check and probably a knowledge check to understand dragon anatomy. I mean, humans don't have acid breath weapon glands.

Can't help you with the DCs, though.
Derren S.
03-07-07, 03:29 AM Well, acid breathing dragons don't have a real acid "gland". Like all dragons they have an additional organ merged with their heart which produces elemental energy so removing it would likely be fatal.

As for rules maybe a heal check with DC = Monster HD. Reduce the DC by 10 if the monster is dead (or damage to it is not a concern).
Having the appropriate knowledge skill should give you a bonus to this roll (Mybe 5 ranks give you +5). Miss the DC by 5 or more then the organ you want to extract gets damaged and is unsueable. Otherwise you can try again.
JadawinParr
03-07-07, 08:58 AM Actually I guess I wasn't specific enough. The question is really 'Once you've killed a monster, how can a character remove that monster's poison sac, or acid gland, or whatever, without damaging it (meaning the sac, not the already dead monster).
tarkin
03-07-07, 11:25 AM It is described in the Draconomicon.

I also wrote an article dealing with it.

Use a Survival skill check. (Surving in the wild includes skinning and dressing animals you hunted.)
Loki5654
03-07-07, 11:47 AM I also wrote an article dealing with it.

Can you point us to it? I'd like to read that.
tarkin
03-07-07, 05:08 PM The article was

"Cutting Up the Dragon"

Issue 332.

Among other things I talked about taking the dragons "Fundamentum" (which supplies the dragon breath) and creating a Fundamentum Flask, out of it.

To make the item you needed the feat DragonCrafter

To harvest the item, was a survival check.
JadawinParr
03-07-07, 07:29 PM OK, thanks. I have another question then. In looking through the Draconomicon, I saw a magic item which required dragon's blood. Is there any place that has the volume of dragon's blood obtainable from a particular sized dragon? The item in question called for a gallon, but how many gallons of blood would a Medium or Large dragon have?

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
JadawinParr 03-07-07, 12:06 AM	I seem to remember reading something (in one of the dozen or so rule books) about how to adjudicate a character trying to remove a poison or acid gland from a monster. Seems like it might have been a heal check. Does anyone happen to know where this rule might be found? Or at least what the rule might be? Thank you for any help you can offer. Jadawin Flint, Michigan
Nathreet 03-07-07, 01:40 AM	Well, I imagine the dragon would have to be unconcious first. Then it's a matter of surgery via a heal check and probably a knowledge check to understand dragon anatomy. I mean, humans don't have acid breath weapon glands. Can't help you with the DCs, though.
Derren S. 03-07-07, 03:29 AM	Well, acid breathing dragons don't have a real acid "gland". Like all dragons they have an additional organ merged with their heart which produces elemental energy so removing it would likely be fatal. As for rules maybe a heal check with DC = Monster HD. Reduce the DC by 10 if the monster is dead (or damage to it is not a concern). Having the appropriate knowledge skill should give you a bonus to this roll (Mybe 5 ranks give you +5). Miss the DC by 5 or more then the organ you want to extract gets damaged and is unsueable. Otherwise you can try again.
JadawinParr 03-07-07, 08:58 AM	Actually I guess I wasn't specific enough. The question is really 'Once you've killed a monster, how can a character remove that monster's poison sac, or acid gland, or whatever, without damaging it (meaning the sac, not the already dead monster).
tarkin 03-07-07, 11:25 AM	It is described in the Draconomicon. I also wrote an article dealing with it. Use a Survival skill check. (Surving in the wild includes skinning and dressing animals you hunted.)
Loki5654 03-07-07, 11:47 AM	I also wrote an article dealing with it. Can you point us to it? I'd like to read that.
tarkin 03-07-07, 05:08 PM	The article was "Cutting Up the Dragon" Issue 332. Among other things I talked about taking the dragons "Fundamentum" (which supplies the dragon breath) and creating a Fundamentum Flask, out of it. To make the item you needed the feat DragonCrafter To harvest the item, was a survival check.
JadawinParr 03-07-07, 07:29 PM	OK, thanks. I have another question then. In looking through the Draconomicon, I saw a magic item which required dragon's blood. Is there any place that has the volume of dragon's blood obtainable from a particular sized dragon? The item in question called for a gallon, but how many gallons of blood would a Medium or Large dragon have?