Reverse Reach Spell Metamagic Feat??? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Reverse Reach Spell Metamagic Feat??? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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The Commoner
03-05-07, 10:01 PM Is there any type of Meta-magic Feat that allows you to convert a Range Touch spell to a melee touch spell?

I looked through all my books and couldn't find a feat that does that.

I know there are PrCs that allow such a thing but that isn't possible for my build and my Arcane Trickster would really want to have that feat...
MerlintheTuna
03-05-07, 10:39 PM Question: Why would you want to do such a thing?
TheDarkLord
03-05-07, 10:43 PM Because you can hold the charge on a touch spell and doing so can release it in conjunction with a normal attack i believe.
The Commoner
03-05-07, 11:08 PM Actually I have an Rogue3/Wizard 6/Arcane Trickster 10/Geometer1 and I deliver +7d6 with a sneak attack. I have the Mobile Casting feat which allows me to deliver a spell and move as a standard action leaving me a move action left over. In essence I have a Spell Spring attack combo that lets me move into a flank, attack, then move away (Tumbling at full speed the entire time). Combined with a few Quickened spells I can be knocking out some major damage.

Example: Polar Ray at my lvl does 21d6 damage with no save and I would have an additional +7d6 damage with my Sneak attack. Note: I have Practiced Spell caster and a +1 lvl Ioun Stone. That is 28d6 damage with no save and I get to escape from full attacks. It is a very good combo and I could avoid a lot of pesky AoO with it as a touch spell. I know the average 84 points of damage might seam weak but I also have Quickened Spell feat so that is an extra spell that could be cast in a flank for more sneak attack damage. In essence, I can really pump out some extra damage with low level spells with such a feat.
Moribund
03-06-07, 03:01 AM The very specific instances in which such a feat would be useful make it unlikely to be published.

My suggestion: improved invisibility plus shooting them with the ray (and the Quickened ray) for sneak attack damage.

Either that or pick up some good touch spells, specifically: combust from SpC and storm touch and scalding touch from MoE

Also the average damage is 98. The average roll on a d6 is 3.5.
Harliquinn
03-07-07, 03:09 PM The Enlightened Fist prestige class (monk/arcane) gives an ability called "Hold Ray" which turns a ray spell into a 'melee touch attack'.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
The Commoner 03-05-07, 10:01 PM	Is there any type of Meta-magic Feat that allows you to convert a Range Touch spell to a melee touch spell? I looked through all my books and couldn't find a feat that does that. I know there are PrCs that allow such a thing but that isn't possible for my build and my Arcane Trickster would really want to have that feat...
MerlintheTuna 03-05-07, 10:39 PM	Question: Why would you want to do such a thing?
TheDarkLord 03-05-07, 10:43 PM	Because you can hold the charge on a touch spell and doing so can release it in conjunction with a normal attack i believe.
The Commoner 03-05-07, 11:08 PM	Actually I have an Rogue3/Wizard 6/Arcane Trickster 10/Geometer1 and I deliver +7d6 with a sneak attack. I have the Mobile Casting feat which allows me to deliver a spell and move as a standard action leaving me a move action left over. In essence I have a Spell Spring attack combo that lets me move into a flank, attack, then move away (Tumbling at full speed the entire time). Combined with a few Quickened spells I can be knocking out some major damage. Example: Polar Ray at my lvl does 21d6 damage with no save and I would have an additional +7d6 damage with my Sneak attack. Note: I have Practiced Spell caster and a +1 lvl Ioun Stone. That is 28d6 damage with no save and I get to escape from full attacks. It is a very good combo and I could avoid a lot of pesky AoO with it as a touch spell. I know the average 84 points of damage might seam weak but I also have Quickened Spell feat so that is an extra spell that could be cast in a flank for more sneak attack damage. In essence, I can really pump out some extra damage with low level spells with such a feat.
Moribund 03-06-07, 03:01 AM	The very specific instances in which such a feat would be useful make it unlikely to be published. My suggestion: improved invisibility plus shooting them with the ray (and the Quickened ray) for sneak attack damage. Either that or pick up some good touch spells, specifically: combust from SpC and storm touch and scalding touch from MoE Also the average damage is 98. The average roll on a d6 is 3.5.
Harliquinn 03-07-07, 03:09 PM	The Enlightened Fist prestige class (monk/arcane) gives an ability called "Hold Ray" which turns a ray spell into a 'melee touch attack'.