sense motive vs charm person [Archive] - Wizards Community

sense motive vs charm person [Archive] - Wizards Community

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dredok
03-11-08, 07:55 PM Hi guys,
I’m hoping you can help me out with something, I’m having a debate with my dm about the rules involving charm person and sense motive.

1, can the charmed person sense motive on them selves to see if they are charmed?

1.5, can the charmed person sense motive on them selves to see if they are charmed after the charm has worn off?

2, rules state dc 25 for an enchantment, if they can check them selves is it the same dc?

3, how does an NPC know to check themselves after the spell ends?

also I was wondering if there Is anyway to increase that dc of the sense motive check? feat, synergy, bonuses, ect

thanks much for your help

sorry i tried to do a quicksearch on the board to see if there anything like this but i didnt find anything, so sorry if i missed somthing.

thanks Vegepygmy. forgot to add the part about before or after charm, sorry.
Vegepygmy
03-11-08, 08:11 PM 1, can the charmed person sense motive on them selves to see if they are charmed?No.
TheRealOrion
03-11-08, 08:57 PM I can kinda, sorta see the logic in checking your own mental state in order to detect that you're acting out of character, actually. It's wierd as hell, but I might be convinced to allow it.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
dredok 03-11-08, 07:55 PM	Hi guys, I’m hoping you can help me out with something, I’m having a debate with my dm about the rules involving charm person and sense motive. 1, can the charmed person sense motive on them selves to see if they are charmed? 1.5, can the charmed person sense motive on them selves to see if they are charmed after the charm has worn off? 2, rules state dc 25 for an enchantment, if they can check them selves is it the same dc? 3, how does an NPC know to check themselves after the spell ends? also I was wondering if there Is anyway to increase that dc of the sense motive check? feat, synergy, bonuses, ect thanks much for your help sorry i tried to do a quicksearch on the board to see if there anything like this but i didnt find anything, so sorry if i missed somthing. thanks Vegepygmy. forgot to add the part about before or after charm, sorry.
Vegepygmy 03-11-08, 08:11 PM	1, can the charmed person sense motive on them selves to see if they are charmed?No.
TheRealOrion 03-11-08, 08:57 PM	I can kinda, sorta see the logic in checking your own mental state in order to detect that you're acting out of character, actually. It's wierd as hell, but I might be convinced to allow it.