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hangman1 06-27-07, 08:34 PM	Is there a feat that lets a specialized wizard learn a single spell from a prohibited school? My thoughts would be something like this. Learn Prohibited Spell Req: Specialist Wizard, Caster Level 11 You may learn a single spell from one of your prohibited schools. The spell must be one level lower than the highest level spell that you can cast. You may enter the spell in your spellbook and use it normally. Too high a level feat? Too low? Game breaking? Or is it somewhere in one of the books?
R4za 06-27-07, 08:45 PM	Hmm. Yeah, it'd work. And I see no reason for the caster level requirement, since lower level casters would be restricted to getting lower level spells by the way the feat works anyway. It's useful, and makes especially evocation with its two good spells a nearly useless school to not prohibit, but since a feat is a pretty solid price for a single spell and schools other than divination would still require you to give up something more major, I don't think it'd be unbalancing. Fairly narrow in its use, though. You'd see Learn Prohibited Spell (Contingency) and like... what else?
hangman1 06-27-07, 08:52 PM	I would be using it for teleport, and there might not be a whole lot of spells it would be used for, it just seems like it should be somewhere. I put the caster level requirement in there mostly for flavor reasons (after mastering the art of magic....blah, blah) and to keep most of the specialist limitations intact. Do others agree that the level requirement isn't necessary?
R4za 06-27-07, 09:10 PM	You prohibited conjuration? That's a fairly poor choice for a restricted school. Which probably means that at least for your campain, this single custom feat won't overpower the character taking it. Oh and, I missed your other question the first time. I'm fairly sure it isn't in any book, although there's a few casting base and prestige classes that have class features that could be used for something like that, often school-specific or a little cheesy when it comes to prohibited spells though.
hangman1 06-27-07, 09:37 PM	An Illusionist Focused Specialist has to give up a lot, but Teleport is the one thing you can't fudge with illusions.
Deathmond 06-27-07, 09:53 PM	Actually, in Lost Empires of Faerune there's a feat that does exactly that. Spell Reprieve lets you choose 1 spell that you can learn normally from your prohibited schools. It can be taken multiple times. It leads into 2 other feats: Item Reprieve, which lets you use spell trigger/completion items of that school normally, and Arcane Transfiguration, which makes the entire school available to you normally.
hangman1 06-27-07, 10:07 PM	Thanks Deathmond, that helps.
tarkin 06-28-07, 10:29 AM	Uhm, have you read guys the PHB: Shadow Walk Illusion (Shadow) Level: Brd 5, Sor/Wiz 6 It is an illusion spell that comes VERY close to duplicating Teleport. ----- I think the feat is a reasonable feat, it is not a big deal to gain one spell per feat (and the other succseive feats are well balanced as well) ------- I find conjuration to be a relatively good choice for specialist forbiding. The existence of the Shadow Conjuration severly limits the need to learn real shadow spells. The schools I never get rid of are: Transmutation, Illusion and Abjuration. Transmutation just has too many spells. Abjuration has Dispell Magic which is too important. Illusion has some of the best defensive spells around (Invisibility, mirror Image, etc.) as well as the Shadow spells to recover much of either conjuration and/or evocation