Skill Knowledge - what exactly do I get ? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Skill Knowledge - what exactly do I get ? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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nonsi
08-28-07, 12:48 AM Skill Knowledge [General]
You gain access to new knowledge and abilities
Benefit: Choose any two skills from one of your current class' skill lists. You now know these skills as class skills.
Special: Instead of choosing two class skills, you may choose one cross-class skill (whether you already know it or not) and learn it, treating it as a class skill from that point forward.

Ok, I understand the "Special" option, but what do I get from choosing 2 skills from "your current class' skill lists" (and what do they mean by "lists") ?
ibayboy
08-28-07, 03:17 AM To gain anything from the first option you need to be a multi-classed character. Choose two skills from any of your classes and they are now class skills for all your classes, forever.

for example, Rog1/Wiz5, use Skill Knowledge to choose Tumble and Bluff from the rogue level. Then when you continue to level up in Wizard you have them as class skills,
Kouk
08-28-07, 09:44 AM It seems to me that the feat would make those skills count as class skills no matter what class you were advancing in, which would mean they always would cost just one point to advance a rank.
HobbitGuy1420
08-28-07, 10:08 AM I'd been looking for a feat like that - is this from an official source, or is it a fan creation?

also, depending on the race of the character in question, the feat Able Learner could do the same thing for multiclassed characters, except that all skills now cost only 1 point to learn. Only works for human or changeling characters, but it's a nice little feat for those!
goawayugh
08-28-07, 10:43 AM Keep in mind though that Able Learner still has the cross-class max ranks rule.
HobbitGuy1420
08-28-07, 10:52 AM but (and correct me if I'm wrong, here) once you've had a skill on your class list, the max ranks are permanantly equal to the max ranks of a class skill, right? Therefore, if you have Able Learner, any skill from any of your class lists is as good as a class skill.
goawayugh
08-28-07, 12:17 PM but (and correct me if I'm wrong, here) once you've had a skill on your class list, the max ranks are permanantly equal to the max ranks of a class skill, right? Therefore, if you have Able Learner, any skill from any of your class lists is as good as a class skill.

Not quite. Able Learner lets cross-class skills cost you 1 skill point rather than 2. It does not make it a class skill. Unless you have a skill one one of your classes skill lists, then the max ranks of (level+3)/2 still applies. I'd quote the feat, but it's not OGC.
MaverickWolf
08-28-07, 02:59 PM Not quite. Able Learner lets cross-class skills cost you 1 skill point rather than 2. It does not make it a class skill. Unless you have a skill one one of your classes skill lists, then the max ranks of (level+3)/2 still applies. I'd quote the feat, but it's not OGC.Which means what he asked is entirely correct. That last sentence says any skill from your class lists, which is the correct interpretation of what he was asking.
nonsi
08-28-07, 05:46 PM Thenks guys :)

Now everything's clear.
Unless I misread something, ibayboy's got it correct.
ibayboy
08-29-07, 02:40 AM Thenks guys :)

Now everything's clear.
Unless I misread something, ibayboy's got it correct.

No prob, and Kouk is right, any class you take from then on will have them as class skills.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
nonsi 08-28-07, 12:48 AM	Skill Knowledge [General] You gain access to new knowledge and abilities Benefit: Choose any two skills from one of your current class' skill lists. You now know these skills as class skills. Special: Instead of choosing two class skills, you may choose one cross-class skill (whether you already know it or not) and learn it, treating it as a class skill from that point forward. Ok, I understand the "Special" option, but what do I get from choosing 2 skills from "your current class' skill lists" (and what do they mean by "lists") ?
ibayboy 08-28-07, 03:17 AM	To gain anything from the first option you need to be a multi-classed character. Choose two skills from any of your classes and they are now class skills for all your classes, forever. for example, Rog1/Wiz5, use Skill Knowledge to choose Tumble and Bluff from the rogue level. Then when you continue to level up in Wizard you have them as class skills,
Kouk 08-28-07, 09:44 AM	It seems to me that the feat would make those skills count as class skills no matter what class you were advancing in, which would mean they always would cost just one point to advance a rank.
HobbitGuy1420 08-28-07, 10:08 AM	I'd been looking for a feat like that - is this from an official source, or is it a fan creation? also, depending on the race of the character in question, the feat Able Learner could do the same thing for multiclassed characters, except that all skills now cost only 1 point to learn. Only works for human or changeling characters, but it's a nice little feat for those!
goawayugh 08-28-07, 10:43 AM	Keep in mind though that Able Learner still has the cross-class max ranks rule.
HobbitGuy1420 08-28-07, 10:52 AM	but (and correct me if I'm wrong, here) once you've had a skill on your class list, the max ranks are permanantly equal to the max ranks of a class skill, right? Therefore, if you have Able Learner, any skill from any of your class lists is as good as a class skill.
goawayugh 08-28-07, 12:17 PM	but (and correct me if I'm wrong, here) once you've had a skill on your class list, the max ranks are permanantly equal to the max ranks of a class skill, right? Therefore, if you have Able Learner, any skill from any of your class lists is as good as a class skill. Not quite. Able Learner lets cross-class skills cost you 1 skill point rather than 2. It does not make it a class skill. Unless you have a skill one one of your classes skill lists, then the max ranks of (level+3)/2 still applies. I'd quote the feat, but it's not OGC.
MaverickWolf 08-28-07, 02:59 PM	Not quite. Able Learner lets cross-class skills cost you 1 skill point rather than 2. It does not make it a class skill. Unless you have a skill one one of your classes skill lists, then the max ranks of (level+3)/2 still applies. I'd quote the feat, but it's not OGC.Which means what he asked is entirely correct. That last sentence says any skill from your class lists, which is the correct interpretation of what he was asking.
nonsi 08-28-07, 05:46 PM	Thenks guys :) Now everything's clear. Unless I misread something, ibayboy's got it correct.
ibayboy 08-29-07, 02:40 AM	Thenks guys :) Now everything's clear. Unless I misread something, ibayboy's got it correct. No prob, and Kouk is right, any class you take from then on will have them as class skills.