Slashing Flurry and Two-Weapon Fighting. [Archive] - Wizards Community

Slashing Flurry and Two-Weapon Fighting. [Archive] - Wizards Community

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RealSorceror
04-19-07, 11:35 AM The Slashing Flurry feat (PH2) says that whenever I attack with a slashing weapon as a standard action, I get an extra attack (with a penalty).

How does this interact with Two-Weapon Pounce? This feat allows me to attack with both my wepons at the end of a charge. Do I get an extra attack with both weapons or just my primary?

Slashing Flurry also allows me to take a penalty and gain an extra attack with a slashing weapon during a Full Attack. If Two Weapon-Fighting, and both my weapons are slashing, can I get an extra attack with both weapons?

And lastly, Perfect Two-Weapon Fighting. This states that I have as many attacks with my off hand weapon as with my primary hand. Does that mean a Monk TWF with a two kamas and using Flurry of Blows has five attacks with each weapon? Does this even apply to affect such as Haste?
Steely_Dan
04-19-07, 11:43 AM Charging is neither a Standard Action nor a Full Attack; it is a "Full Round Action".
RealSorceror
04-19-07, 11:45 AM Charging is neither a Standard Action nor a Full Attack; it is a "Full Round Action".
Bother. Ok, what if I'm just doing a normal Full Attack and TWF? Does Slashing Flurry give me one extra or two extra attacks?
Steely_Dan
04-19-07, 11:58 AM Bother. Ok, what if I'm just doing a normal Full Attack and TWF? Does Slashing Flurry give me one extra or two extra attacks?

I believe it will give you only one (ala flurry of blows), but I will read the exact wording when I get home from work and get back to you, though I'm sure by then one of the lovely people on these boards will have already answered your question.
RealSorceror
04-19-07, 12:20 PM I believe it will give you only one (ala flurry of blows), but I will read the exact wording when I get home from work and get back to you, though I'm sure by then one of the lovely people on these boards will have already answered your question.
Thanks much. I won't really be dissapointed if its only one (I already have a stupid number of attacks for a two-armed character), but if I get two I'll make use of it.
GreyStar
04-19-07, 12:51 PM I've looked at combining these feats as well. I've even thought about it's combination with Dual Strike from Complete Adventurer, which lets you make one attack roll with both weapons as a standard action. If they're both slashing, I don't think it'd be illegal to use them in conjunction.
Someone
04-19-07, 12:52 PM If you're slashy flurry and TWF, you get two extra attacks, one from the flurry and one from the TWF. Note that you also take both penalties on all those attacks.
tarkin
04-19-07, 01:06 PM 1. Two Weapon Pounce can't be used with Slashing Flurry

2. Slashing Flurry only grants one extra attack, no matter what.

3. Perfect Two-Weapon Fighting is debatable. A Strict/Loose interpration is that it is applied before any other 'extra' attacks are done. If you are a monk, you could do the full normal Monk Flurry then double it with your off hand, but could not double 'extra attacks' like Haste or Slashing Flurry.

A Power/Anything Goes Game may let you apply PTWF last, doubling even the Haste/Slashing Flurry thing.
Flan
04-19-07, 03:15 PM Slashing Flurry really isn't a very good feat. It's nice to say "hey, I can get another attack" but in actual practice it's rarely useful. There are certainly a lot of other feats I'd take long before it.
RealSorceror
04-19-07, 05:01 PM 1. Two Weapon Pounce can't be used with Slashing Flurry

2. Slashing Flurry only grants one extra attack, no matter what.

3. Perfect Two-Weapon Fighting is debatable. A Strict/Loose interpration is that it is applied before any other 'extra' attacks are done. If you are a monk, you could do the full normal Monk Flurry then double it with your off hand, but could not double 'extra attacks' like Haste or Slashing Flurry.

A Power/Anything Goes Game may let you apply PTWF last, doubling even the Haste/Slashing Flurry thing.
Ya, I'd probably say it applies before the extra attacks. Otherwise, I could horribly abuse this thing I just created.
RealSorceror
04-19-07, 05:03 PM Slashing Flurry really isn't a very good feat. It's nice to say "hey, I can get another attack" but in actual practice it's rarely useful. There are certainly a lot of other feats I'd take long before it.
Its great for standard actions but sucks for full attacks.

And btw, this character has 43 feats. I'll take whatever I darn well please. :D
Zumarai
04-20-07, 04:41 AM And btw, this character has 43 feats. I'll take whatever I darn well please. :D

Wow, how'd you wangle that?

…Or are you simply ricockulous level (epic)?
blood_of_the_ancient
04-20-07, 10:28 AM Wow, 43 feats. That's impressive. I mean, I thought twice my challenge rating was a good number of feats to aim for, generally...
RealSorceror
04-20-07, 10:54 AM Wow, how'd you wangle that?

…Or are you simply ricockulous level (epic)?
He is level 40, so ya, hes' epic. Throughout his progression, he has always had more feats than levels.

Here is a break down:
The Rogue variant in Unearthed Arcana was essential. It gives bonus feats as a Fighter instead of Sneak Attack. Also, after 10th level Rogues can take feats instead of special abilities. - 15 feats
He is human with two flaws - 3 feats
He is level forty - 14 feats
He has 10 levels in Fighter - 6 feats
He has 4 levels in OA Samurai and 5 in Psychic Warrior - 5 feats
For grand total of 43. :D
Steely_Dan
04-20-07, 11:03 AM He is level 40, so ya, hes' epic. Throughout his progression, he has always had more feats than levels.

Here is a break down:
The Rogue variant in Unearthed Arcana was essential. It gives bonus feats as a Fighter instead of Sneak Attack. Also, after 10th level Rogues can take feats instead of special abilities. - 15 feats
He is human with two flaws - 3 feats
He is level forty - 14 feats
He has 10 levels in Fighter - 6 feats
He has 4 levels in OA Samurai and 5 in Psychic Warrior - 5 feats
For grand total of 43. :D

*look of shock*
Vaelan
04-20-07, 09:53 PM Its great for standard actions but sucks for full attacks.
That operates under the premise that hitting people with your least accurate attacks is something resembling a challenge. If you're Epic and have problems with that, you have bigger problems than one sub-optimal feat.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
RealSorceror 04-19-07, 11:35 AM	The Slashing Flurry feat (PH2) says that whenever I attack with a slashing weapon as a standard action, I get an extra attack (with a penalty). How does this interact with Two-Weapon Pounce? This feat allows me to attack with both my wepons at the end of a charge. Do I get an extra attack with both weapons or just my primary? Slashing Flurry also allows me to take a penalty and gain an extra attack with a slashing weapon during a Full Attack. If Two Weapon-Fighting, and both my weapons are slashing, can I get an extra attack with both weapons? And lastly, Perfect Two-Weapon Fighting. This states that I have as many attacks with my off hand weapon as with my primary hand. Does that mean a Monk TWF with a two kamas and using Flurry of Blows has five attacks with each weapon? Does this even apply to affect such as Haste?
Steely_Dan 04-19-07, 11:43 AM	Charging is neither a Standard Action nor a Full Attack; it is a "Full Round Action".
RealSorceror 04-19-07, 11:45 AM	Charging is neither a Standard Action nor a Full Attack; it is a "Full Round Action". Bother. Ok, what if I'm just doing a normal Full Attack and TWF? Does Slashing Flurry give me one extra or two extra attacks?
Steely_Dan 04-19-07, 11:58 AM	Bother. Ok, what if I'm just doing a normal Full Attack and TWF? Does Slashing Flurry give me one extra or two extra attacks? I believe it will give you only one (ala flurry of blows), but I will read the exact wording when I get home from work and get back to you, though I'm sure by then one of the lovely people on these boards will have already answered your question.
RealSorceror 04-19-07, 12:20 PM	I believe it will give you only one (ala flurry of blows), but I will read the exact wording when I get home from work and get back to you, though I'm sure by then one of the lovely people on these boards will have already answered your question. Thanks much. I won't really be dissapointed if its only one (I already have a stupid number of attacks for a two-armed character), but if I get two I'll make use of it.
GreyStar 04-19-07, 12:51 PM	I've looked at combining these feats as well. I've even thought about it's combination with Dual Strike from Complete Adventurer, which lets you make one attack roll with both weapons as a standard action. If they're both slashing, I don't think it'd be illegal to use them in conjunction.
Someone 04-19-07, 12:52 PM	If you're slashy flurry and TWF, you get two extra attacks, one from the flurry and one from the TWF. Note that you also take both penalties on all those attacks.
tarkin 04-19-07, 01:06 PM	1. Two Weapon Pounce can't be used with Slashing Flurry 2. Slashing Flurry only grants one extra attack, no matter what. 3. Perfect Two-Weapon Fighting is debatable. A Strict/Loose interpration is that it is applied before any other 'extra' attacks are done. If you are a monk, you could do the full normal Monk Flurry then double it with your off hand, but could not double 'extra attacks' like Haste or Slashing Flurry. A Power/Anything Goes Game may let you apply PTWF last, doubling even the Haste/Slashing Flurry thing.
Flan 04-19-07, 03:15 PM	Slashing Flurry really isn't a very good feat. It's nice to say "hey, I can get another attack" but in actual practice it's rarely useful. There are certainly a lot of other feats I'd take long before it.
RealSorceror 04-19-07, 05:01 PM	1. Two Weapon Pounce can't be used with Slashing Flurry 2. Slashing Flurry only grants one extra attack, no matter what. 3. Perfect Two-Weapon Fighting is debatable. A Strict/Loose interpration is that it is applied before any other 'extra' attacks are done. If you are a monk, you could do the full normal Monk Flurry then double it with your off hand, but could not double 'extra attacks' like Haste or Slashing Flurry. A Power/Anything Goes Game may let you apply PTWF last, doubling even the Haste/Slashing Flurry thing. Ya, I'd probably say it applies before the extra attacks. Otherwise, I could horribly abuse this thing I just created.
RealSorceror 04-19-07, 05:03 PM	Slashing Flurry really isn't a very good feat. It's nice to say "hey, I can get another attack" but in actual practice it's rarely useful. There are certainly a lot of other feats I'd take long before it. Its great for standard actions but sucks for full attacks. And btw, this character has 43 feats. I'll take whatever I darn well please. :D
Zumarai 04-20-07, 04:41 AM	And btw, this character has 43 feats. I'll take whatever I darn well please. :D Wow, how'd you wangle that? …Or are you simply ricockulous level (epic)?
blood_of_the_ancient 04-20-07, 10:28 AM	Wow, 43 feats. That's impressive. I mean, I thought twice my challenge rating was a good number of feats to aim for, generally...
RealSorceror 04-20-07, 10:54 AM	Wow, how'd you wangle that? …Or are you simply ricockulous level (epic)? He is level 40, so ya, hes' epic. Throughout his progression, he has always had more feats than levels. Here is a break down: The Rogue variant in Unearthed Arcana was essential. It gives bonus feats as a Fighter instead of Sneak Attack. Also, after 10th level Rogues can take feats instead of special abilities. - 15 feats He is human with two flaws - 3 feats He is level forty - 14 feats He has 10 levels in Fighter - 6 feats He has 4 levels in OA Samurai and 5 in Psychic Warrior - 5 feats For grand total of 43. :D
Steely_Dan 04-20-07, 11:03 AM	He is level 40, so ya, hes' epic. Throughout his progression, he has always had more feats than levels. Here is a break down: The Rogue variant in Unearthed Arcana was essential. It gives bonus feats as a Fighter instead of Sneak Attack. Also, after 10th level Rogues can take feats instead of special abilities. - 15 feats He is human with two flaws - 3 feats He is level forty - 14 feats He has 10 levels in Fighter - 6 feats He has 4 levels in OA Samurai and 5 in Psychic Warrior - 5 feats For grand total of 43. :D look of shock
Vaelan 04-20-07, 09:53 PM	Its great for standard actions but sucks for full attacks. That operates under the premise that hitting people with your least accurate attacks is something resembling a challenge. If you're Epic and have problems with that, you have bigger problems than one sub-optimal feat.