Stone Power + Power Attack... [Archive] - Wizards Community

Stone Power + Power Attack... [Archive] - Wizards Community

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SmilinBandit
04-05-07, 10:29 AM Greetings lads and ladies!

I have been playing a Swordsage in one of my campaigns for quite some time now and started to really like the ToB.
Now for another campaign all my previous character ideas (some might remember my threads asking for help with my character) have been rejected by the DM because he does not like Unearthed Arcana or Variant Classes, but he is ok with ToB :D
It will be a very battle-heavy war campaing so I was thinking of playing a Crusader (a class more complex than my usual classes, but very very flavourfull).

So now for my question(s):

I want to take Stone Power and Power Attack as soon as possible.
Am I right that when I, for example, Power Attack for 2 points and use Stone Power for 3 points my attacks will be at -5 ?
So you cannot say "I take -3 to attack and get Power Attack 3 and Stone Power 3 together"?

I remember there is a class ability (Ronin prc from CW?) or feat that lets you substract your Power Attack from your AC on a charge. Is there a feat that lets you do that without a charge and in normal combat?
That would make a nice combo to fill my damage pool while dealing good damage :fight!:

Thanks in advance,

:D 慨 Bandit
tarkin
04-05-07, 10:53 AM Yes, the penalties from Power Attack and the penalties from Stone Power stack, they do not overlap.

(It is -5, not -3)

I do not know of a non-charge version that lowers your AC instead of your BAB.
wolfie-kun
04-05-07, 10:54 AM Stone Power and Power Attack are completely separate. -3 PA = +3 damage. -3 SP = +6 temp hp. Both in the same round = -6 to hit.

You're thinking of the tactical feat Shock Trooper.
SmilinBandit
04-05-07, 11:11 AM Wow quick answers...

Thanks for clarifying the stacking issue!

I have looked through most of the books I liberated from my DM and found Reckless Offensive in RoF.
It is allmost what I wanted, allthough a little bit weaker.
I will save the charging feats for higher levels, since I do not get that many feats.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
SmilinBandit 04-05-07, 10:29 AM	Greetings lads and ladies! I have been playing a Swordsage in one of my campaigns for quite some time now and started to really like the ToB. Now for another campaign all my previous character ideas (some might remember my threads asking for help with my character) have been rejected by the DM because he does not like Unearthed Arcana or Variant Classes, but he is ok with ToB :D It will be a very battle-heavy war campaing so I was thinking of playing a Crusader (a class more complex than my usual classes, but very very flavourfull). So now for my question(s): I want to take Stone Power and Power Attack as soon as possible. Am I right that when I, for example, Power Attack for 2 points and use Stone Power for 3 points my attacks will be at -5 ? So you cannot say "I take -3 to attack and get Power Attack 3 and Stone Power 3 together"? I remember there is a class ability (Ronin prc from CW?) or feat that lets you substract your Power Attack from your AC on a charge. Is there a feat that lets you do that without a charge and in normal combat? That would make a nice combo to fill my damage pool while dealing good damage :fight!: Thanks in advance, :D 慨 Bandit
tarkin 04-05-07, 10:53 AM	Yes, the penalties from Power Attack and the penalties from Stone Power stack, they do not overlap. (It is -5, not -3) I do not know of a non-charge version that lowers your AC instead of your BAB.
wolfie-kun 04-05-07, 10:54 AM	Stone Power and Power Attack are completely separate. -3 PA = +3 damage. -3 SP = +6 temp hp. Both in the same round = -6 to hit. You're thinking of the tactical feat Shock Trooper.
SmilinBandit 04-05-07, 11:11 AM	Wow quick answers... Thanks for clarifying the stacking issue! I have looked through most of the books I liberated from my DM and found Reckless Offensive in RoF. It is allmost what I wanted, allthough a little bit weaker. I will save the charging feats for higher levels, since I do not get that many feats.