Swashbuckler dodge? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Swashbuckler dodge? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
RunLikeHell
06-12-07, 07:29 PM Does swashbuckler dodge act as the dodge feat for gaining other feats?
BugHunter
06-12-07, 08:56 PM Does swashbuckler dodge act as the dodge feat for gaining other feats?

No, the swashbuckler dodge class feature is limited by wearing medium or heavy armor or carrying a medium or heavy load. The dodge feat doesn't have these limits.
Lady Maedhros
06-13-07, 12:35 AM No, the swashbuckler dodge class feature is limited by wearing medium or heavy armor or carrying a medium or heavy load.

... As is a ranger's fighting style, and a monk's unarmed strike (which sometimes the rules say is "Unarmed strike for free" and sometimes "counts as unarmed strike" because the rules are poorly edited), and those most certainly do count as feats.

Not that the swash's dodge is equal to the Dodge feat, it's just that that's not why. Swash's dodge isn't Dodge because it doesn't say "this counts as the Dodge feat" and it's also significantly mechanically different. So, the answer is that by RAW it doesn't...

... but I have a pretty low opinion personally of any DM who won't houserule that it does. Swashbuckler is not so strong a class nor Dodge so strong a feat that it breaks the game to treat it that way.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
RunLikeHell 06-12-07, 07:29 PM	Does swashbuckler dodge act as the dodge feat for gaining other feats?
BugHunter 06-12-07, 08:56 PM	Does swashbuckler dodge act as the dodge feat for gaining other feats? No, the swashbuckler dodge class feature is limited by wearing medium or heavy armor or carrying a medium or heavy load. The dodge feat doesn't have these limits.
Lady Maedhros 06-13-07, 12:35 AM	No, the swashbuckler dodge class feature is limited by wearing medium or heavy armor or carrying a medium or heavy load. ... As is a ranger's fighting style, and a monk's unarmed strike (which sometimes the rules say is "Unarmed strike for free" and sometimes "counts as unarmed strike" because the rules are poorly edited), and those most certainly do count as feats. Not that the swash's dodge is equal to the Dodge feat, it's just that that's not why. Swash's dodge isn't Dodge because it doesn't say "this counts as the Dodge feat" and it's also significantly mechanically different. So, the answer is that by RAW it doesn't... ... but I have a pretty low opinion personally of any DM who won't houserule that it does. Swashbuckler is not so strong a class nor Dodge so strong a feat that it breaks the game to treat it that way.