Tempest & Two Weapon Defense? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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MydniteSon

07-12-07, 12:57 AM
Quick question....


Should the Two Weapon Defense feats be able to stack with the Tempest Defense from the Tempest Prestige Class? Tempest Defense gives you a +1-3 (Depending on Level) if fighting with two weapons. Does the Two Weapon Defense series stack with that, or is it simply the same exact thing? Tempest defense only works with light or no armor. No such limitation with Two Weapon Defense (Not that I can think anyway). So what is the consensus?
Rhonin the Big

07-12-07, 01:00 AM
Two-weapon defence is a shield bonus to AC whereas Tempest (Stormwind?) Defense is untyped, it stacks. I suggest just picking up improved buckler defence from complete warrior instead of two-weapon defence because the bonuses to AC scale better.
unusualsuspect

07-12-07, 01:09 AM
Tempest Stormwind Defense
The power of a board icon is on your side! Well, when you agree with him.
Benefit: When discussion psionics or ToB, but at no other time, your arguments gain a +2 logic bonus against argumentss of overpoweredness. This bonus does not stack with any other logic bonuses you might (and probably will) have against such arguments.
Special: Psionics Board purveyors can take this feat as a bonus feat.
Rhonin the Big

07-12-07, 01:20 AM
Tempest Stormwind Defense
The power of a board icon is on your side! Well, when you agree with him.
Benefit: When discussion psionics or ToB, but at no other time, your arguments gain a +2 logic bonus against argumentss of overpoweredness. This bonus does not stack with any other logic bonuses you might (and probably will) have against such arguments.
Special: Psionics Board purveyors can take this feat as a bonus feat.

*grabs a pot of coffee and waits for him to comment on this*
unusualsuspect

07-12-07, 01:22 AM
*realizes he probably shouldn't be posting under the effects of 3 glasses of wine*
MydniteSon

07-12-07, 01:31 AM
Tempest Stormwind Defense
The power of a board icon is on your side! Well, when you agree with him.
Benefit: When discussion psionics or ToB, but at no other time, your arguments gain a +2 logic bonus against argumentss of overpoweredness. This bonus does not stack with any other logic bonuses you might (and probably will) have against such arguments.
Special: Psionics Board purveyors can take this feat as a bonus feat.

With an explanation like that, I'd SWEAR you work for WotC. And I'm thinking Bourbon might do the trick.
unusualsuspect

07-12-07, 01:42 AM
With an explanation like that, I'd SWEAR you work for WotC. And I'm thinking Bourbon might do the trick.

Y'know, that could be taken as an insult in some parts. No offense, WotC employees!

...

Yeah, them's fightin' words!
MydniteSon

07-12-07, 01:51 AM
Y'know, that could be taken as an insult in some parts. No offense, WotC employees!

...

Yeah, them's fightin' words!

My sincerest apologies then. Still like the Bourbon idea though.
unusualsuspect

07-12-07, 01:58 AM
My sincerest apologies then. Still like the Bourbon idea though.

Bourbon, my dear fellow, is always a good idea.

To Bourbon!

*falls unconscious*
Irving

07-12-07, 08:17 AM
I'll issue a YMMV on the Improved Buckler Defense over TWD. It's mostly a better choice, but if your campaign is low-magic enough that an echanted buckler is a rarity, I'd go with TWD.

Note that the AC bonus for TWD goes up to +2 if you fight defensively. Depending on your combat tactics, that can be a help. I often maneuver my TWF rogue around the board to flank; if I have to end a turn in a vulnerable spot, I fight defensively. With my high Tumble skill, it comes out to +4 AC, -4 to hit. Toss in Combat Expertise, and I can get -9 to hit, +9 to AC. Granted, I won't hit anything that round, but I can squeak out an AC of 30 for that round, which is pretty darn good in a 6th level character. Call it the "Snapping Turtle, Hidden Dragon" combat style...