Tenebrous Vestige + DMM [Archive] - Wizards Community

Tenebrous Vestige + DMM [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Lanoitakude
12-06-07, 05:17 PM Hello, I remember reading a discussion on this subject a long time ago, but my searches came up fruitless, so I am looking to the boards for aide in finding the discussion (or starting up a new one, if no earlier threads can be found).

Let us take the hypothetical character: wiz3/binder1/anima mage6/Ur-Priest2/MysticTheurge8

If this character binds Tenebrous and has a Metamagic Feat and DMM, can he basically apply that MM feat to all of his spells, due to the unlimited turning/rebuking ability of the Tenebrous vestige? This is, of course, insanely powerful. An official verdict on the subject from CustServ would be awesome, if it exists, but a link to an earlier debate would be helpful as well.

Thank you, in advance.
Dracosis
12-06-07, 08:40 PM The turning/rebuking ability of Tenebrous only lets you use it once every 5 rounds, so it wouldn't work with DMM.
strenoth
12-06-07, 10:33 PM though you could get a 1-level metamagic for free once every 5 rounds.
Lanoitakude
12-07-07, 02:48 PM Thanks for the replies.

Sadly, because DMM requires you to spend 1+the increase in spell level, the Tenebrous turning ability would not allow for any DMM use (unless it was just used to offset the cost of DMM, combined with Ur-Priest rebuking).

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Lanoitakude 12-06-07, 05:17 PM	Hello, I remember reading a discussion on this subject a long time ago, but my searches came up fruitless, so I am looking to the boards for aide in finding the discussion (or starting up a new one, if no earlier threads can be found). Let us take the hypothetical character: wiz3/binder1/anima mage6/Ur-Priest2/MysticTheurge8 If this character binds Tenebrous and has a Metamagic Feat and DMM, can he basically apply that MM feat to all of his spells, due to the unlimited turning/rebuking ability of the Tenebrous vestige? This is, of course, insanely powerful. An official verdict on the subject from CustServ would be awesome, if it exists, but a link to an earlier debate would be helpful as well. Thank you, in advance.
Dracosis 12-06-07, 08:40 PM	The turning/rebuking ability of Tenebrous only lets you use it once every 5 rounds, so it wouldn't work with DMM.
strenoth 12-06-07, 10:33 PM	though you could get a 1-level metamagic for free once every 5 rounds.
Lanoitakude 12-07-07, 02:48 PM	Thanks for the replies. Sadly, because DMM requires you to spend 1+the increase in spell level, the Tenebrous turning ability would not allow for any DMM use (unless it was just used to offset the cost of DMM, combined with Ur-Priest rebuking).