testing a new feat - thoughts? [Archive] - Wizards Community

testing a new feat - thoughts? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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MovieMonkey
03-21-08, 11:01 AM I was trying to come up with something a little like the Three Musketeers. How does this sound:

Sword Brother
Prerequisites:
Dexterity 13
Base Attack Bonus +1
While using a melee weapon that you are proficient with, you provide a +1 shield bonus to an ally who is within 5 feet (1 square); uses an Attack of Opportunity.

Improved Sword Brother
Prerequisites:
Base Attack Bonus +4
Combat Reflexes
Increases shield bonus to +2; is now a free action.

This idea works with Shieldmate, so why not with a melee weapon? This is specifically for agile fighters standing side-by-side with someone you know and work well with.
TheRealOrion
03-21-08, 02:54 PM I like it, actually. The fact that it provides a bonus for someone else is an appropriate balancing factor. The prerequisite is skill (BA) not ability (Dex), which makes sense. And if you get two of them together, they can cover each other, but only if they're back-to-back.

Instead of an attack of opportunity, though, I'd suggest a Swift action.

I wonder if it would be over-powered to create a kind of synergy. If you're standing next to a "Sword Sibling," you both get +2. Too much?
unundindur
03-22-08, 06:29 AM Given that its a "shield" bonus, and not an untyped bonus I would recommend improving these feats somewhat.

I suggest that it is an automatic action (for both feats), and that the bonus(es) are doubled if both have the same feat.

Considdering how two weapon defence works, and that this one requires an ally and that two weapon defence isn't a sought after feat my conclusion is final.
jaelis
03-22-08, 09:44 AM I'd say the feats should grant a shield bonus to all adjacent allies whenever you are wielding a melee weapon and are not flat-footed, with no action required and no AoO loss. If you fight defensively or take total defense, the bonus should double.

So it would be like TWD, but for your allies instead of yourself. The prereqs are lower though, which I think is reasonable.

If you want to sharpen the flavor, restrict it to weapons that can be used with Weapon Finesse.
unundindur
03-23-08, 07:04 AM I like Jaelis' version better than mine ;)

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
MovieMonkey 03-21-08, 11:01 AM	I was trying to come up with something a little like the Three Musketeers. How does this sound: Sword Brother Prerequisites: Dexterity 13 Base Attack Bonus +1 While using a melee weapon that you are proficient with, you provide a +1 shield bonus to an ally who is within 5 feet (1 square); uses an Attack of Opportunity. Improved Sword Brother Prerequisites: Base Attack Bonus +4 Combat Reflexes Increases shield bonus to +2; is now a free action. This idea works with Shieldmate, so why not with a melee weapon? This is specifically for agile fighters standing side-by-side with someone you know and work well with.
TheRealOrion 03-21-08, 02:54 PM	I like it, actually. The fact that it provides a bonus for someone else is an appropriate balancing factor. The prerequisite is skill (BA) not ability (Dex), which makes sense. And if you get two of them together, they can cover each other, but only if they're back-to-back. Instead of an attack of opportunity, though, I'd suggest a Swift action. I wonder if it would be over-powered to create a kind of synergy. If you're standing next to a "Sword Sibling," you both get +2. Too much?
unundindur 03-22-08, 06:29 AM	Given that its a "shield" bonus, and not an untyped bonus I would recommend improving these feats somewhat. I suggest that it is an automatic action (for both feats), and that the bonus(es) are doubled if both have the same feat. Considdering how two weapon defence works, and that this one requires an ally and that two weapon defence isn't a sought after feat my conclusion is final.
jaelis 03-22-08, 09:44 AM	I'd say the feats should grant a shield bonus to all adjacent allies whenever you are wielding a melee weapon and are not flat-footed, with no action required and no AoO loss. If you fight defensively or take total defense, the bonus should double. So it would be like TWD, but for your allies instead of yourself. The prereqs are lower though, which I think is reasonable. If you want to sharpen the flavor, restrict it to weapons that can be used with Weapon Finesse.
unundindur 03-23-08, 07:04 AM	I like Jaelis' version better than mine ;)