TWF w/ Spring attack [Archive] - Wizards Community

TWF w/ Spring attack [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Phase
07-16-07, 01:40 AM Are there any 3.5 feats that allow you to attack twice with spring attack?(edit:with TWF)

And more so, rapid blitz?
Hammersoul
07-16-07, 07:58 AM It is a class feature of the Tempest prestige class (Complete Adventurer pag. 81)
Demonwrecker
07-16-07, 03:37 PM There IS a feat in the PHII that allows an off-hand attack in addition to the primary hand attack on a spring attack. Unfortunately, I do not have my books with me now so cannot remember the damn feat name. Check it out.
calvinNhobbes
07-16-07, 04:20 PM The PHBII feat is called Bounding Assault I believe.
Twylyght
07-16-07, 05:39 PM PHII
Yep, Bounding assault - 2 attacks
Also, Rapid blitz - 3 attacks

then like said above, theres 5 levels of tempest if you into that kind of thing
BugHunter
07-16-07, 07:46 PM You can also use Dual Strike CAd page 108.
Twylyght
07-16-07, 09:22 PM I think dual strike leads around to the "standard action" vs "attack action" debate. That said, I'd prob let it slide.

I would still go with the bounding assault if for no other reason than to qualify for the blitz later.
WolfHati
07-17-07, 01:16 AM Bounding assault + tempest is really nice though. They multiply if I read it correctly.
Twylyght
07-17-07, 01:55 AM hmm, on a pure technical level.... I thnik your on to something. Advance it to Rapid blitz, and I think you can argue you get 6 attacks to split up between up to 5 targets (the two attacks from tempest look like they go to the same target) so long as you can reach them all with your movement. Toss in Two Weapon Rend for some extra fun. You almost have "dervish dance light" stated out.
Big_Mac
07-17-07, 09:41 AM PHII
Yep, Bounding assault - 2 attacks
Also, Rapid blitz - 3 attacks

then like said above, theres 5 levels of tempest if you into that kind of thing

These are based on BAB attacks not TWF. Tempest feature is the only one that allows you to attack with you off hand as part of a standard action.
Twylyght
07-17-07, 03:40 PM These are based on BAB attacks not TWF. Tempest feature is the only one that allows you to attack with you off hand as part of a standard action.

True, but there is no reason you cant choose to take the extra attack with your other hand(or anyhting else available to attack with) if you wanted too, if you are willing to bite the penalty.

**This part purely opinion, house rules, caution** Since it wouldnt be true"two weapon" fighting, I would let them choose to use the "off hand" with this feat as a main hand attack, since it is based on BAB. I go by the concept that "two-weapon" fighting is actually anything past what your normal full attack + other abilities allow. So if a fighter with a BAB of +11 wanted to use a mace in each hand not claim extra attacks from it, I would let them split the 3 attacks(+11/+6/+1) between the hands at no penalty. Giving up your shield to look cool is penalty enough.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Phase 07-16-07, 01:40 AM	Are there any 3.5 feats that allow you to attack twice with spring attack?(edit:with TWF) And more so, rapid blitz?
Hammersoul 07-16-07, 07:58 AM	It is a class feature of the Tempest prestige class (Complete Adventurer pag. 81)
Demonwrecker 07-16-07, 03:37 PM	There IS a feat in the PHII that allows an off-hand attack in addition to the primary hand attack on a spring attack. Unfortunately, I do not have my books with me now so cannot remember the damn feat name. Check it out.
calvinNhobbes 07-16-07, 04:20 PM	The PHBII feat is called Bounding Assault I believe.
Twylyght 07-16-07, 05:39 PM	PHII Yep, Bounding assault - 2 attacks Also, Rapid blitz - 3 attacks then like said above, theres 5 levels of tempest if you into that kind of thing
BugHunter 07-16-07, 07:46 PM	You can also use Dual Strike CAd page 108.
Twylyght 07-16-07, 09:22 PM	I think dual strike leads around to the "standard action" vs "attack action" debate. That said, I'd prob let it slide. I would still go with the bounding assault if for no other reason than to qualify for the blitz later.
WolfHati 07-17-07, 01:16 AM	Bounding assault + tempest is really nice though. They multiply if I read it correctly.
Twylyght 07-17-07, 01:55 AM	hmm, on a pure technical level.... I thnik your on to something. Advance it to Rapid blitz, and I think you can argue you get 6 attacks to split up between up to 5 targets (the two attacks from tempest look like they go to the same target) so long as you can reach them all with your movement. Toss in Two Weapon Rend for some extra fun. You almost have "dervish dance light" stated out.
Big_Mac 07-17-07, 09:41 AM	PHII Yep, Bounding assault - 2 attacks Also, Rapid blitz - 3 attacks then like said above, theres 5 levels of tempest if you into that kind of thing These are based on BAB attacks not TWF. Tempest feature is the only one that allows you to attack with you off hand as part of a standard action.
Twylyght 07-17-07, 03:40 PM	These are based on BAB attacks not TWF. Tempest feature is the only one that allows you to attack with you off hand as part of a standard action. True, but there is no reason you cant choose to take the extra attack with your other hand(or anyhting else available to attack with) if you wanted too, if you are willing to bite the penalty. This part purely opinion, house rules, caution Since it wouldnt be true"two weapon" fighting, I would let them choose to use the "off hand" with this feat as a main hand attack, since it is based on BAB. I go by the concept that "two-weapon" fighting is actually anything past what your normal full attack + other abilities allow. So if a fighter with a BAB of +11 wanted to use a mace in each hand not claim extra attacks from it, I would let them split the 3 attacks(+11/+6/+1) between the hands at no penalty. Giving up your shield to look cool is penalty enough.