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Oya971 02-26-07, 03:43 AM	Hi all, I have a sorcerer 4/assassin 1 (odd combination due to the campaign setting) and I'm trying to plan in advance what feat to take at lvl 6 when I'll go for a second level in assassin. thx in advance for your advice.
claypigeons 02-26-07, 04:21 AM	I have a sorcerer 4/assassin 1 (odd combination due to the campaign setting) and I'm trying to plan in advance what feat to take at lvl 6 when I'll go for a second level in assassin. How about you find a way to at leat qualify for the class first? There is absolutely no way for a level 4 character to have 8 ranks in a skill (max is 7)... Let alone 8 ranks in each of 2 cross class skills... :rolleyes:
Oya971 02-26-07, 04:27 AM	DM allowed it as part of his campaign, although the character didn't meet the prerequisites. My first choice was to biclass in rogue but it couldn't be done (houserules again) so I agreed to take assassin as it gave v. good roleplaying prospects given the character's background. So yes, it wasn't done as per the rules but my question remains, would be good feats for an assassin. :) thx
claypigeons 02-26-07, 04:31 AM	DM allowed it as part of his campaign, although the character didn't meet the prerequisites. My first choice was to biclass in rogue but it couldn't be done (houserules again) so I agreed to take assassin as it gave v. good roleplaying prospects given the character's background. So yes, it wasn't done as per the rules but my question remains, would be good feats for an assassin. thx I suppose anything that would make you useful to your party. Sorcerer is Cha driven... so that's either 4 wasted levels of casting... or 1-10 wasted level of assassin casting... Assassin casting is INT based... So, perhaps you could detail how far these house rules go. Because, as it stands now, a level 6 kobold with a wet noodle screaming "PWNED! would probably kill you. In one hit. Then laugh.
Oya971 02-26-07, 07:59 AM	So, perhaps you could detail how far these house rules go. Because, as it stands now, a level 6 kobold with a wet noodle screaming "PWNED! would probably kill you. In one hit. Then laugh. Sorry to refocus this conversation but my question is not about whether or not my character is 'pwned' like you say by lowly npcs. You may judge the character flawed and I tend agree, which is why I like it, as it gives me plenty of opportunities to roleplay interesting situations. :) Now to go back to my question, I simply enquired about feats that assassins usually take. Thx to anyone who can help.
RobbyPants 02-26-07, 12:40 PM	The types of feats you want will be largely dependant on your role in the party, and how you utilize each class. I'll give this a shot, making up a few probably ideas: Scout-type: You'll be the party's primary scout, so you'll want to move undetected. This could work nicely if you have Invisibility as a sorcerer spell. Any feats to boost your Move Silently skill will help (remember that being invisible doen't make you undetectable ;)). Melee skirmisher-type: Perhaps you want to get into the thick of things to utilize your death attack/sneak attack. You need to make a melee attack to use death attack, but neither sorcerers nor assassins are great at taking hits and walking away. You'll want to use spells and feats to get you up to your opponents (and back away!) either undetected or at least unscathed. Some possible feats are Dodge, Mobility, and Spring Attack. Improved Toughness will get you some more HP, but it will take you a while to qualify for it with that combo of classes. Your best bet is probably to avoid damage all together... Ranged attacker-type: Perhaps you'd rather snipe at your opponents. You can still use your sneak attack within 30 feet, although you won't be able to death attack. Remember that some spells will allow sneak attack damage as well... Some possible feats are: Point Blank Shot, Precice Shot (a must), Rapid Shot, Far Shot, Improved Precise Shot. Anyway, you get the idea. If you can tell me more about what you want from your character, I can try to do a better job of suggesting you some feats. ;)
SiouLubb 02-26-07, 04:44 PM	I agree with the selection of Invisibility as a spell for your character. Much easier to get those rounds of examining your target in preparation for the death attack if they can't see you. I'd also recommend Grease in order to get your targets flat-footed. How about you list the spells that you have chosen? That might give us a better idea of how you intend to play the character. Oh, one other spell I'll suggest- Shocking grasp. Why? So you can make your death attack a touch attack as opposed to a melee attack. Which brings up one suggestion- take Weapon Finesse with your touch attack. That will let you use your DEX mod instead of your STR, which for a Sorc should improve your odds of getting off a hit pretty substantially. If you insist on using a melee weapon to do your death attack, take Weapon Finesse for that weapon.
Izlyn 02-27-07, 12:20 AM	DM allowed it as part of his campaign, although the character didn't meet the prerequisites. My first choice was to biclass in rogue but it couldn't be done (houserules again) so I agreed to take assassin as it gave v. good roleplaying prospects given the character's background. So yes, it wasn't done as per the rules but my question remains, would be good feats for an assassin. :) thx Well...if your DM is so open-handed, tell him to give you Improved Critical, Power Critical even if you don't meet the prerequisites. :D :P
Oya971 02-27-07, 03:41 AM	... How about you list the spells that you have chosen? That might give us a better idea of how you intend to play the character. Oh, one other spell I'll suggest- Shocking grasp. Why? So you can make your death attack a touch attack as opposed to a melee attack. Which brings up one suggestion- take Weapon Finesse with your touch attack. That will let you use your DEX mod instead of your STR, which for a Sorc should improve your odds of getting off a hit pretty substantially. If you insist on using a melee weapon to do your death attack, take Weapon Finesse for that weapon. The most relevant spells at my character's disposal are invisibility, obscuring mist and true strike. Now I can't use true strike during an assassination until I have the silent spell metamagic feat and I reach level 6 sorcerer (invisibility is a lvl 2 spell, with silent spell it makes it a lvl 3 spell and sorcerers don't have lvl 3 spell slots until lvl 6). Yes shocking grasp would have been a very viable option but my character has a minor sword of backstab, which gives me a total +5/3d6 damage if the character makes a sneak attack. Weapon finesse would be a good choice, I'd gain an extra +1, possibly a +2 if I can somehow gain an extra dex point (cat's grace potion for example). Now I'm not sure weapon finesse apllies to such a sword.
Izlyn 02-27-07, 04:31 AM	For Assassin spells a MUST-HAVE imho is Blade of Blood
runestar 02-27-07, 07:45 AM	Ability focus: death attack.
CaoSlayer 02-27-07, 08:07 AM	silent spell is good, very good... invisible assasin + silent true strike: silent ownage. With skill tricks from complete scoundrel you can get a lot of use from mosquito bite, this means hiting the enemy while invisible without him noticing it until the next round, so you can catch him totally off-guard twice.
Real_iceman 02-27-07, 10:30 AM	in what book is the abillity focus ?
Oya971 02-27-07, 11:30 AM	thx for all the replies guys ability focus is certainly a good one, I was looking for something to boost my death attack and that should do nicely thx Blade of Blood, now in which book would I find this plz? I'll check complete scoundrel in a shop for that mosquito bite and skill tricks thx
CaoSlayer 02-27-07, 01:21 PM	in what book is the abillity focus ? Monster manual I think.
Izlyn 02-28-07, 01:08 AM	Blade of Blood, now in which book would I find this plz? Players Handbook 2 p.96,103.