Vow of Poverty Monk + Kensai [Archive] - Wizards Community

Vow of Poverty Monk + Kensai [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Malvoi
08-08-07, 01:25 AM 1) Can a monk with the VoP feat benefit from the Kensai's weapon enhancement ability (+10 wpn enhance.) to his natural weapons?

I would believe so being that the Kensai's enhancement ability is derived from xp invested in his/her weapons rather than monetary or magical wealth. Thoughts? :monk:

2) Also, the VoP feat clearly states the character cannot use any magic item of any kind but the Tomes and Manuals of <respective stat> seem to me more like knowledge enhancements (being inherent bonuses) although they are granted via magical means.

Anyone know if they might be exceptions to the rule? :detect:

Thanks in advance. :tiphat:
runestar
08-08-07, 06:37 AM 1) Yes, a monk with VOP can still enchant his fists via kensai (since they still won't have a monetary value, nor can they be donated for a worth cause anyways).

2) You can't use a tome as that would be benefiting from a magic item. You could still get inherent stat bonuses, say from a wish spell or something similar. The typical route is to have the party mage enchant you, which probably is not feasible until epic lvs anyways, if at all (I know I wouldn't, for one).

Alternatively, simply hold off taking the VOP feat until you have read all the tomes you want.:)
Fallenangel359
08-08-07, 10:04 AM that holding off will reduce your bonus exalted feats though
TaiSharShaidar
08-08-07, 12:38 PM Yeah, like getting bonus exulted feats is such a great bonus.:rolleyes:

To be honest there very few of those feats I would want anyway, so to me that’s not a drawback.
FrotzMe
08-08-07, 12:41 PM that holding off will reduce your bonus exalted feats though

Really not losing that much, though. I've gone through assorted VoP builds, and it's fairly hard to use all the exalted feats to which you are entitled - especially as a Monk; most of the really good exalted feats require high Cha (usually a dump stat for a Monk).

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Malvoi 08-08-07, 01:25 AM	1) Can a monk with the VoP feat benefit from the Kensai's weapon enhancement ability (+10 wpn enhance.) to his natural weapons? I would believe so being that the Kensai's enhancement ability is derived from xp invested in his/her weapons rather than monetary or magical wealth. Thoughts? :monk: 2) Also, the VoP feat clearly states the character cannot use any magic item of any kind but the Tomes and Manuals of <respective stat> seem to me more like knowledge enhancements (being inherent bonuses) although they are granted via magical means. Anyone know if they might be exceptions to the rule? :detect: Thanks in advance. :tiphat:
runestar 08-08-07, 06:37 AM	1) Yes, a monk with VOP can still enchant his fists via kensai (since they still won't have a monetary value, nor can they be donated for a worth cause anyways). 2) You can't use a tome as that would be benefiting from a magic item. You could still get inherent stat bonuses, say from a wish spell or something similar. The typical route is to have the party mage enchant you, which probably is not feasible until epic lvs anyways, if at all (I know I wouldn't, for one). Alternatively, simply hold off taking the VOP feat until you have read all the tomes you want.:)
Fallenangel359 08-08-07, 10:04 AM	that holding off will reduce your bonus exalted feats though
TaiSharShaidar 08-08-07, 12:38 PM	Yeah, like getting bonus exulted feats is such a great bonus.:rolleyes: To be honest there very few of those feats I would want anyway, so to me that’s not a drawback.
FrotzMe 08-08-07, 12:41 PM	that holding off will reduce your bonus exalted feats though Really not losing that much, though. I've gone through assorted VoP builds, and it's fairly hard to use all the exalted feats to which you are entitled - especially as a Monk; most of the really good exalted feats require high Cha (usually a dump stat for a Monk).