weapon group feats [Archive] - Wizards Community

weapon group feats [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Real_iceman
03-04-07, 07:12 AM in unearthed arcana, there is the house rules feats. weapon group feats. i was just wondering how many feats the duskblade would start with ?
paladin2019
03-04-07, 10:58 AM Is it an "arcane variant of the paladin" like the hexblade? Probably 3, unless the class is extremely focused.
Real_iceman
03-04-07, 02:08 PM No ir is a variant rule that replaces simple and martial weapon proficiency. each character class begins with a difrent number of weapon groupfeats like. a rogue starts with basic weapons and two other.
paladin2019
03-04-07, 02:56 PM Right. If the duskblade is like the hexblade, an arcane variant on the paladin, I would recommend a number of wepon groups like the paladin; basic pluys three of choice. If the duskblade is more focused than the paladin or hexblade, I would recommend fewer.

The rule of thumb is
Good BAB = basic plus 3
Average BAB = basic plus 2
Poor BAB = basic plus 1

As I said, a guideline. There are exceptions, like monks and druids and wizards. But if you want a starting point for all the new base classes, this is it.
Mastel
03-04-07, 04:50 PM what is the advantage of using weapon group feat?
paladin2019
03-04-07, 04:52 PM what is the advantage of using weapon group feat?

A change of flavor. Mechanically, the system is a general nerfing.
ragoftag
03-04-07, 10:10 PM Agreed, Nerfs a lot! That said, it works quite well to 'flavor' a game. I lumped basic into each Class' core weapons and trimmed the number of groups. Allowed me to create tighter selections for Races and Classes. An Elf Rogue would gain both the Elf and Rogue groups as his first 2 choices, of 3, I think. House Rule: you gain a new group whenever you gain a new attack per round due to your BAB.
Chrono Nexus
03-04-07, 10:21 PM Fun fact: Martial weapon proficiency, as per the feat, doesn't grant proficiency with all martial weapons, it actually only grants you proficiency with a "kind" of weapon. However, if you gain MWP as a class feature, it does grant full proficiency.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Real_iceman 03-04-07, 07:12 AM	in unearthed arcana, there is the house rules feats. weapon group feats. i was just wondering how many feats the duskblade would start with ?
paladin2019 03-04-07, 10:58 AM	Is it an "arcane variant of the paladin" like the hexblade? Probably 3, unless the class is extremely focused.
Real_iceman 03-04-07, 02:08 PM	No ir is a variant rule that replaces simple and martial weapon proficiency. each character class begins with a difrent number of weapon groupfeats like. a rogue starts with basic weapons and two other.
paladin2019 03-04-07, 02:56 PM	Right. If the duskblade is like the hexblade, an arcane variant on the paladin, I would recommend a number of wepon groups like the paladin; basic pluys three of choice. If the duskblade is more focused than the paladin or hexblade, I would recommend fewer. The rule of thumb is Good BAB = basic plus 3 Average BAB = basic plus 2 Poor BAB = basic plus 1 As I said, a guideline. There are exceptions, like monks and druids and wizards. But if you want a starting point for all the new base classes, this is it.
Mastel 03-04-07, 04:50 PM	what is the advantage of using weapon group feat?
paladin2019 03-04-07, 04:52 PM	what is the advantage of using weapon group feat? A change of flavor. Mechanically, the system is a general nerfing.
ragoftag 03-04-07, 10:10 PM	Agreed, Nerfs a lot! That said, it works quite well to 'flavor' a game. I lumped basic into each Class' core weapons and trimmed the number of groups. Allowed me to create tighter selections for Races and Classes. An Elf Rogue would gain both the Elf and Rogue groups as his first 2 choices, of 3, I think. House Rule: you gain a new group whenever you gain a new attack per round due to your BAB.
Chrono Nexus 03-04-07, 10:21 PM	Fun fact: Martial weapon proficiency, as per the feat, doesn't grant proficiency with all martial weapons, it actually only grants you proficiency with a "kind" of weapon. However, if you gain MWP as a class feature, it does grant full proficiency.