Post/Author/DateTime	Post
FrostHammer 08-23-07, 11:12 AM	I need some clarification on how Leap Attack works with Power Attack, and I can't quite remember where to download the errata. Thanks.
tarkin 08-23-07, 12:01 PM	http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/errata However, I have found that there errata for Leap Attack just CONFUSES the issue more. They REALLY REALLY REALLY should have given an EXAMPLE. A picture is worth a 1,000 words, an example is worth 500 descriptions.
FrostHammer 08-23-07, 10:48 PM	Can you give me some examples?
Tsuul 08-24-07, 02:31 AM	Post how you think it works and the community will respond :D
Spikes01k 08-24-07, 11:54 AM	Called WoTC, I GOT THE FOLLOWING ANSWERS They are open in like 7 minutes if you want to confirm it your self. One Handed Weapon 1:2 power attack ratio -1 hit +2 damage -2 hit +4 damage -3 hit +6 damage Two Handed Weapon 1:3 power attack ratio -1 hit +3 damage -2 hit +6 damage -3 hit +9 damage P.S. I ALSO called them on combining Leap Attack and Supreme Power Attack GOT THE FOLLOWING ANSWERS One Handed Weapon 1:3 Two Handed Weapon 1:6
RobbyPants 08-24-07, 01:30 PM	However, I have found that there errata for Leap Attack just CONFUSES the issue more. They REALLY REALLY REALLY should have given an EXAMPLE. A picture is worth a 1,000 words, an example is worth 500 descriptions. Agreed. That "+100% normal" wording was so ambiguous. What you end up with is two camps who insist they know how it works (and what WotC intended), and they feel that this wording is clear as day. So obviously, either the wording isn't all that clear... or half of the people who have an opinion on the answer are stupid :P
Frugal 08-24-07, 02:22 PM	Called WoTC, I GOT THE FOLLOWING ANSWERS They are open in like 7 minutes if you want to confirm it your self. One Handed Weapon 1:2 power attack ratio -1 hit +2 damage -2 hit +4 damage -3 hit +6 damage Two Handed Weapon 1:3 power attack ratio -1 hit +3 damage -2 hit +6 damage -3 hit +9 damage P.S. I ALSO called them on combining Leap Attack and Supreme Power Attack GOT THE FOLLOWING ANSWERS One Handed Weapon 1:3 Two Handed Weapon 1:6 Ah but that's demonstrably wrong based on the example from the Supreme Power Attack errata. The +100% language there includes the example of -1 to hit +4 to damage with a 2-hander, that sets the precedent that -1 to hit gives +2 to damage is the "normal damage" for from a 2-hander. So if it's 1:3 with a 2-hander and leap attack then it should be 1:5 with leap attack and supreme power attack. Or, if it's 1:4 with supreme power attack (as shown in the errata with an example) then you could argue it's 1:4 with leap attack as well (same wording) and 1:6 combined.
Spikes01k 08-24-07, 04:16 PM	Ah but that's demonstrably wrong based on the example from the Supreme Power Attack errata. The +100% language there includes the example of -1 to hit +4 to damage with a 2-hander, that sets the precedent that -1 to hit gives +2 to damage is the "normal damage" for from a 2-hander. So if it's 1:3 with a 2-hander and leap attack then it should be 1:5 with leap attack and supreme power attack. Or, if it's 1:4 with supreme power attack (as shown in the errata with an example) then you could argue it's 1:4 with leap attack as well (same wording) and 1:6 combined. Leap attack does not enhance a two handed weapon like it does for a one handed weapon. It sets the pay off to 1:3. So when you apply supreme power attack it makes it 1:6, double that of a one handed weapon.
FrostHammer 08-26-07, 12:53 PM	So why did they need the errata anyways? It seems the original wording also worked.
Spikes01k 08-26-07, 01:31 PM	So why did they need the errata anyways? It seems the original wording also worked. To help deal with combining one handed weapon with leap attack and supreme power attack. simply saying does double doesn't work right with their system of dealing with multiples With the way its written the end result with supreme attack with a one handed weapon would be more like 1:4 instead of 1:3.